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Old 07-29-2021, 11:20 AM
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Is either of these marks the correct one, or neither, or both? Yes the dark mound there are VERY active ants.
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Old 07-29-2021, 11:23 AM
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Old 07-29-2021, 12:13 PM
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let's look at the rule 803.02: "A player may obtain relief from the following obstacles that are on or behind the lie: motor vehicles, harmful insects or animals, people, or any item or area as designated by the Director. To obtain relief, the player may mark a new lie that is on the line of play, farther from the target, at the nearest point that provides relief."

nearest point that provides relief is pink.

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Old 07-29-2021, 12:16 PM
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let's look at the rule 803.02: "A player may obtain relief from the following obstacles that are on or behind the lie: motor vehicles, harmful insects or animals, people, or any item or area as designated by the Director. To obtain relief, the player may mark a new lie that is on the line of play, farther from the target, at the nearest point that provides relief."

nearest point that provides relief is pink.
Determining the nearest point is way to nuanced. I would argue that the pink lie isnt close enough.
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Old 07-29-2021, 12:26 PM
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Determining the nearest point is way to nuanced. I would argue that the pink lie isnt close enough.
nuanced, yes; if they are stinging ants & they still are crawling all over the mini (can't tell from pic), i would say it may not be far enough & white could be correct
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Old 07-29-2021, 12:49 PM
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I'm voting both....because I'm not there and the information isn't enough for me to make a ruling.

Chevis quoted the rule. The main point in that rule is "....nearest point that provides relief." The issue is stinging ants. I can't tell from the photo what spot provides relief from the stinging ants. If I was on the same card, I could look at the ground and determine where the nearest point is that provides relief. It might not be totally clear from the ants....but is it likely that the player won't get bit/stung by the ants during their stance/throw? The white marker appears to give relief....but there might be a better spot in between the two also. Or as a group, we might decide that the white one still doesn't give relief.

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Old 07-29-2021, 12:52 PM
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how do you know they are stinging

what if they are just regular ass ants

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Old 07-29-2021, 12:54 PM
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how do you know they are stinging

what if they are just regular ass ants
Well I don't want ass ants on me either!!

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this does make me think about a few years ago when i hit a tree with a hornets nest in it & my lie/disc was being swarmed (i got stung 5 times getting my disc & just skipped the hole); the wasps were swarming in a large cloud, so in this case the nearest relief would have been like 50ft away. i'm wondering what kind of relief would be given if that tree was near the basket; i guess you could take relief on every missed putt; that could really put strokes on the card.

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how do you know they are stinging
If you know, you know.

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