Old 03-29-2013, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MrDarkHorse View Post

In conclusion, the percentage of players I've run into seem to be about 25% guys who just want to drink and/or smoke pot, 30% guys who seem to be taking everything a little too seriously and are kind of douchebags, 20% casual players or newbs throwing Grooves on 150' holes, 24% good guys about on my level that seem like good guys I'd enjoy spending an afternoon with, 1% women.

Sounds about right.

I'd suggest finding some random draw doubles to get into. You'll get paired with a variety of people to play with, and you'll see better players and be able to ask them questions. You'll also see different lines on holes you're familiar with, different throwing styles that might end up becoming part of your game, and since it's doubles, it should be much more relaxed and fun for everyone anyway.

Everyone is different, but you'll find the people that are more receptive to offering help eventually. I know recently some people in my former club ran an instructional clinic. They were willing to help answer questions, critique form, and offer advice. Keep your eyes peeled for things like this, and remember, it NEVER hurts to ask. If you see someone you think you could learn from, find a way to spend some time in the field with them, or throw a round with them. Might take a little bribery, but you gotta break the ice somehow, in disc golf as well as everything else in life.

Good luck, and stay thirsty my friend.
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:58 PM
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Guess it just depends on the personalities of different folks. A brand new guy without any discs showed up for our jungle round Wednesday night. We only had 5 so we played doubles. He got paired with our best player, so it was really even. All 5 of us show him pointers throughout the whole round and let him throw 3-4 times per hole if needed. Some may say we touch him inappropriately by lining up his hips and shoulders and such... but he was receptive. Sure... walked in front of folks putting, but we knew what we were getting into. We had to teach course etiquette as well.

At the end, I gave him a ride home and 5 discs from my trunk full. I hope we have a new disciple. I've only been playing a year myself now, but I have an addictive personality and was an avid ball golfer and tossed a frisbee a lot as kid.. so I picked up the concepts easily and now I play tournaments every weekend. The locals here have helped me tremendously.

So... come on over to Jefferson City, MO and meet folks eager to help out the newbies. Our club has exploded from 30+ members to nearly 100 this past year!
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:11 PM
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Lots of good advice in here.

Id suggest, figure out what you want out of the game, and go from there.

If your goal is to get better and compete, then youre right about playing with better players. It will help you. Watching, asking questions and getting feedback from players who do something better than you will almost never be a waste of time.

If youre mostly aiming to have it be a R and R activity, treat it that way. Seek out others who are easy going and try to play with them when you can.

To me it sounds like youre interested in being better, and learning faster. I think youve taken the right steps by joining a local club, getting outto leagues, minis and other events. The more youre there the faster you can establish relationships with the other players. Make contacts, and try and play regularly with people that share your passion. You'll weed out the people you dont wanna be around. As stated earlier, DG is just like any other aspect of life, its a mixed bag.
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:13 PM
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Yup - just about the same experience for me and my son. Started playing with friends and then joined the local club and started playing dubs. About a month later, started playing tournaments. The intensity level with the local pros can take some of the fun out of round but that is the level that they want to compete at. Ask questions, follow the advice or at least try it and see if each tip works for you and your game. We've learned a TON from the better players and have improved rapidly. Stick with it man, do lots of field work, and try every shot and technique that you can. The internet is a huge help also with the advice on this site and clinics that the pros hold. Also just watch more disc golf at the higher levels. Disc Golf Monthly, The Clash videos, Disc Golf Planet TV etc. Good luck man!
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:17 PM
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As far as the local pros taking things too seriously; you have to remember that most of us invest a lot of time and energy into our game. Many of us treat it like a second job. It's not an excuse to be an a-hole to anyone, but try to keep that in mind. Not a lot of people have that uber-competitive spirit, so I can see that turning some people off. These types exist in all sports, though.
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:18 PM
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Hang in there. There are a lot of reasons more seasoned players are maybe a bit cliqueish and might not readily offer help. For one, a lot of guys have been playing together for a long time, so it's just natural that they are friends and gravitate toward one another. Also, many people might feel uncomfortable dishing out suggestions either because they don't feel like they themselves are good enough to hold forth on the subject. Some do offer good advice spontaneously, but I've found that most just play their own game.

The answer to both these things is to keep playing leagues and minis and hang out with the golfers you think are fun to hang out with. Most of them will probably be better than you at this point (I've been playing for almost 2 years and most of the people I play with are probably better than me), so you can see which shots they throw and what discs they use. Also, just ask them specific questions about what they'd do, and they'll probably answer.

Just play with people who are fun to play with, and ask them questions. Really though, in the end you can learn from any golfer, good or bad. You'll also most likely just get better with time if you're even only partially focused on how best to learn and play the game.
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:36 PM
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I would suggest playing doubles if any local courses have them. Also, if there is a FB page for local clubs, to join. I have met a few people from the FB page for random rounds and they have all been friendly and helpful. They usually play with other people so I started to meet more people. I've been playing about a year and I agree there are some a holes but about what I would expect. Most have been friendly and helpful.
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:53 PM
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My tip: Don't stereotype the stoners or consider them bad people just because they smoke pot. Most of the people i've met on the course were stoners and they have all been very friendly and helpful. And no, they aren't only there just to smoke weed, they are there to enjoy the same sport that we all enjoy for the same reasons we enjoy it. The other thing is I'll bet the stoners are 50% or higher you just don't know who they all are yet because they haven't done it in front of you.
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Old 03-29-2013, 02:10 PM
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The best way I've made friends out of strangers while playing disc golf is playing local doubles. You'll become friends with those in your group and you'll likely learn from the better players you get partnered with. (Even in a town where there were established cliques that were hard to break into, partnering with someone almost always was a good experience.)

Also, if you are really interested in learning the game, find out who the best player in your town is and invite them to play a round with you. Tell them you are learning the game and heard they were the best around (which will make them feel great). You can ask for pointers along the way, and observe them on a course you likely play often. Offer to buy them a drink/meal or whatever for their help.

Sidenote: during tournaments many players aren't at thier friendliest, because golf is a game that requires focus and often an internal battle. I've found people to be cooler during casual play.
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Old 03-29-2013, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by The Hammer View Post
As far as the local pros taking things too seriously; you have to remember that most of us invest a lot of time and energy into our game. Many of us treat it like a second job. It's not an excuse to be an a-hole to anyone, but try to keep that in mind. Not a lot of people have that uber-competitive spirit, so I can see that turning some people off. These types exist in all sports, though.
Yeah I totally understand being super competitive and working on your game. I throw or play a round pretty much every day, and that's why I'm here so much.

It's not the competitiveness that turns me off, it's the exclusion and/or the rudeness.

It's the same way with the pot guys. I don't necessarily mind that you're smoking on the course, but I do think it's unfortunate that it means that people feel like they have to hide from unknown players for fear of being narced on. (not to mention the fact that outsiders are going to have a hard time taking a sport seriously that such a significant portion of the population likes to do it while under the influence and/or intoxicated... like darts or bowling)

I guess this was more of a rambling commentary about the pluses and minuses of the culture of the sport. It's a great sport, but I think some of these issues are probably barriers to growing the sport even further.

Personally it's not going to deter me, but I do think it's a little disappointing.
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