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Old 05-27-2020, 03:14 PM
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He's been trying to sell this for a while now, and is the only person I've ever heard of reporting it. Like, is his bag actually tuning the discs overstable for him, or are they 'beating in more overstable'? Because those are two drastically different things. I think there would be a significant warping of the flight plate or puddle topping going on if it was the former - and the latter I'm certain isn't possible
There is warping of the flight plate, if you notice I reported that the PLH is raised in certain sections of the disc. Please reread.
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Old 05-27-2020, 04:52 PM
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I ordered 4 esp wasps total from two different retailers and they have both been stuck in transit for a few days. I just want to throw them.
The new guys? They're quite overstable yet still have a surprising amount of glide. Pairs perfectly with the CT I've been throwing (and Comets).
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Old 05-27-2020, 05:11 PM
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The new guys? They're quite overstable yet still have a surprising amount of glide. Pairs perfectly with the CT I've been throwing (and Comets).
Yeah the new ones. I’m a big roc guy but I’ve always liked the wasp. I don’t like z plastic though so these are what I have been waiting for. I am not sure what I am going to pair with them. I might just thrash one on purpose so I don’t need to use another mold.
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Old 05-27-2020, 06:08 PM
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Ever wonder why discraft is against making full production wasps in pro-d, jawbreaker or even x? I think they would sell like hotcakes if they did.

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Old 05-27-2020, 08:44 PM
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Ever wonder why discraft is against making full production wasps in pro-d, jawbreaker or even x? I think they would sell like hotcakes if they did.
Just have Paul or Brodie throw it in a couple videos and they would for sure.

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Old 05-27-2020, 08:52 PM
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Ever wonder why discraft is against making full production wasps in pro-d, jawbreaker or even x? I think they would sell like hotcakes if they did.
I've been waiting since GMC 2018 for them to do it...got tired of waiting, and even though I think the JB Wasp is the best version of the mold, I ended up selling all of mine. I throw comets more often anyway.
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Old 05-27-2020, 09:10 PM
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Just have Paul or Brodie throw it in a couple videos and they would for sure.
Yeah Paul did throw the jb wasp at 2019 Waco. Maybe the Malta kicked it out
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Old 05-27-2020, 09:23 PM
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Yeah the new ones. I’m a big roc guy but I’ve always liked the wasp. I don’t like z plastic though so these are what I have been waiting for. I am not sure what I am going to pair with them. I might just thrash one on purpose so I don’t need to use another mold.
Why not premium Wasp base Roc? Or Comet (my choice). Good luck thrashing one of these...I'd bet Simon, a brick wall, two hours, and one of these wouldn't get you what you want.

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Old 05-27-2020, 09:24 PM
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Ever wonder why Discraft is against making full production wasps in pro-d, jawbreaker or even x? I think they would sell like hotcakes if they did.
I was told by an older player on here that the Wasp First came out in Z in 2001 when Elite Z was the only plastic. There was when I first went to a Store in 2004 after my first year of play, Pro D Wasp's but Elite X was not out yet. The People at Discraft did come out with the Elite X Wasp as a limited but for any tournament plastic, I have one as they ran out of discs for people at a 2005 Ice Bowl due in part to weather, my dad got the last Ice Bowl disc and his was from 2004. I passed on the picking knowing that nobody wanted a 166 gram Wasp in Elite X, the disc was not great due in part to weight being almost 10 grams from max of 177+ grams.

Also Pro D changed from old 2000-end of 2005 to sometime in 2006 the plastic went soft and not as stiff with old Putters in standard Pro D being most stiff plastic. This probably caused Pro D to be dropped from the Wasp as the modern Pro D got soft and a hard wack to a tree the disc warps bad in new plastic but the old, the plastic can shatter in very cold temps just being in a bag.


So to Sum that "long" 2 Paragraphs up above Discraft did make discs in Pro D and Elite X, Not just Z but I think seems that Discraft was determined to press on with just Z due to disc not flying the way Discraft wants when disc breaks in. In my mind if you want to compete with Innova ROC the Wasp should be in every similar plastic to that of ROC/3 but ROC with the KC as the exception. The only one in full production was the Pro D in the early to mid 2000's.
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Old 05-27-2020, 09:34 PM
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Why not premium Wasp base Roc? Or Comet (my choice). Good luck thrashing one of these...I'd bet Simon, a brick wall, two hours, and one of these wouldn't get you what you want.
I know this is a dumb reason, but just a mental block as to why I can't throw a roc with it.
Why not just throw rocs? Comets are amazing discs, but they just feel awful in my hand.
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