Making the mando and being behind it

[Steve West]

Originally Posted by Cgkdisc

Think of the Restricted Space (Missed Mando) plane as a pane of fragile glass. If your disc breaks the glass coming through its front OR back side, you get penalized.

That's a good way to think of it. The point about either side is important.

Keep in mind it's not a violation unless the disc clearly goes completely through the glass. Just making a crack doesn't count as a miss.

[roblee]

If a made mando kicks and stops on the back (good) side but with just a part of the disc poking through the plane I recon this is no penalty but how is this marked and how can you legally throw?

[BillFleming]

Originally Posted by roblee

If a made mando kicks and stops on the back (good) side but with just a part of the disc poking through the plane I recon this is no penalty but how is this marked and how can you legally throw?

Unlike an OB where no part of your stance can be OB....you CAN stand on the restricted side of the mando. By the wording the area is only restricted for the disc.

[txmxer]

Originally Posted by BillFleming

Unlike an OB where no part of your stance can be OB....you CAN stand on the restricted side of the mando. By the wording the area is only restricted for the disc.

But, if the disc is on the plane, your stance is completely behind the plane.

Do you have to make sure your release is beyond the plane? Let’s say you want to throw a Brodie style scoober. That might mean disc release is behind the plane.

I know it’s a technicality, but it is distinctly a possibility

[ToddL]

Originally Posted by txmxer

But, if the disc is on the plane, your stance is completely behind the plane.

Do you have to make sure your release is beyond the plane? Let’s say you want to throw a Brodie style scoober. That might mean disc release is behind the plane.

I know it’s a technicality, but it is distinctly a possibility

Diagram?

It sounds like you're standing on the wrong side of your disc.

[BillFleming]

Originally Posted by ToddL

Diagram?

It sounds like you're standing on the wrong side of your disc.

Look at my poorly drawn picture...now let's say the disc ended next to the mando line, your reachback could break the plane and enter the restricted area.

[BillFleming]

Originally Posted by Cgkdisc

Think of the Restricted Space (Missed Mando) plane as a pane of fragile glass. If your disc breaks the glass coming through its front OR back side, you get penalized.

Thank you for this way of looking at it. During a break in a tournament today, my group was discussing this rule and a couple had trouble understanding how to apply it....I brought up your "breaking the glass" and they got it.

[txmxer]

Originally Posted by ToddL

Diagram?

It sounds like you're standing on the wrong side of your disc.

I may be misunderstanding the rule and some of the comments, but this is what I envisioned. The disc clears the mando, gets a tree kick and rolls backward on the wrong side of the mando and lays down on the mando line. It is my understanding, this is not a missed mando?

If it is not a missed mando, the player then must take a stance behind the mando line and make a throw from behind the mando line. Can the player throw the blue path, or must the next throw follow the green line?

[BillFleming]

Originally Posted by txmxer

I may be misunderstanding the rule and some of the comments, but this is what I envisioned. The disc clears the mando, gets a tree kick and rolls backward on the wrong side of the mando and lays down on the mando line. It is my understanding, this is not a missed mando?

If it is not a missed mando, the player then must take a stance behind the mando line and make a throw from behind the mando line. Can the player throw the blue path, or must the next throw follow the green line?

The MOST important part of the new mando rule is that it isn't about where the disc comes to rest. The ONLY thing that matters is - did it FULLY enter the restricted area.....if so, take a penalty and throw from drop zone or where your last lie was. What the disc does after entering the restricted area doesn't matter.

[txmxer]

Originally Posted by BillFleming

The MOST important part of the new mando rule is that it isn't about where the disc comes to rest. The ONLY thing that matters is - did it FULLY enter the restricted area.....if so, take a penalty and throw from drop zone or where your last lie was. What the disc does after entering the restricted area doesn't matter.

Sorry, the above is okay or is not okay?