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Old 05-29-2017, 11:11 PM
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Like banshee Overstable? Or more like an OS teebird?
Don't throw a banshee, a lot more stable than my metal flake teebird. It took alot of effort to get 250 feet plus out of it.
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Old 05-30-2017, 09:28 AM
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How far do you throw your teebird?
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Old 05-30-2017, 09:14 PM
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Definitely overstable. Here's a video on it.

That looks stable,! I bet the Teebird will be out of the bag until this one is beat up.
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Old 05-30-2017, 10:04 PM
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How far do you throw your teebird?
I use my teebird on holes 325 and in, never tried to bomb it.

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Old 06-01-2017, 05:58 PM
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Oh yeah, this is one beefy little River.

Anyone tried to bomb them 300+ in headwinds? Figure it might be stable enough and am happy about 1 mold 2 disc DD bag.
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Old 06-02-2017, 10:27 AM
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I'm surprised these are coming out so OS. What is the difference between these and the retooled sparks?
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I'm surprised these are coming out so OS. What is the difference between these and the retooled sparks?
From what I gather, they weren't intended to be so overstable. Indeed, even in this thread there are reports of varying stabilities. One of my friends who is Westside sponsored got the Trilogy Challenge discs awhile back and has said his River Pro is not nearly as overstable as some people say (disclosure: he's a straight-up bomber so that could be a factor) so it appears there is at least some variance across the run.

I was really looking forward to this disc, but from at least these initial reports it seems like the Pine might be the best disc of the three...
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Old 06-02-2017, 08:56 PM
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They are not overstable. At least not in the general sense that we think of Teebirds as being stable but not overstable. They will be overstable for people playing the Trilogy Challenge expecting beginner discs. They are not Firebirds, Felons, or the like. They are however very resistant to turn and will fade at the finish. For a strong arm, these will be a great primary fairway. For slower arms, they will be more useful for utility or headwind days. Just like everything, your arm speed will dictate how these fly. But again I will repeat what I saw from some much bigger arms than myself. New, these won't turn over with good form, will fly a long way, but will finish to the left of center.

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Old 06-02-2017, 11:57 PM
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Sounds like it might be a nice disc for us that aren't so fond of the "trilogy glide". I'll definitely have to check it out!
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Old 06-03-2017, 06:24 AM
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They are not overstable. At least not in the general sense that we think of Teebirds as being stable but not overstable. They will be overstable for people playing the Trilogy Challenge expecting beginner discs. They are not Firebirds, Felons, or the like. They are however very resistant to turn and will fade at the finish. For a strong arm, these will be a great primary fairway. For slower arms, they will be more useful for utility or headwind days. Just like everything, your arm speed will dictate how these fly. But again I will repeat what I saw from some much bigger arms than myself. New, these won't turn over with good form, will fly a long way, but will finish to the left of center.
Interesting point, then overstable is reserved for the 10 discs out there that actually have a positive turn rating?

I guess one should start referring to HSS and then fade value rather than "stability".

For distances around 270' I need to flex this disc. It definitely fades earlier than my slightly used Saint Pro and OOB Frost Saint when thrown at same power.
I haven't thrown it more than 7 times but I would put it between the Rival and the Teebird.

Gonna bomb it over 300' flat release to get a more exact flight pattern in my head.
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