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Electron = Pro D = DX
? = Elite X = Pro
Proton = Elite Z = Champ
Neutron = ESP = Star

then of course each company has specialty plastics and varaints, but those are the core plastics.

Z/Champ has been most overstable on average, but some runs of ESP/Star will break that rule. Check the disc-specific threads for more information on each mold.
Thanks! That's pretty much all I was looking for!
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Old 02-07-2020, 04:15 PM
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Thanks! That's pretty much all I was looking for!
I'm not sure what your priorities are for midranges, but the IMO the Comet is unmatched by any other company. Buzzz and Wasp are both great, too... but Comet is my favorite. Lots of good Discraft mids to pick from.

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Old 02-07-2020, 04:20 PM
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Electron = Pro D = DX
? = Elite X = Pro
Proton = Elite Z = Champ
Neutron = ESP = Star

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Gonna have to disagree a bit.

There are no exact matches as Discraft uses a different base.

From most base to ultra premium

Pro D < DX < Elite X < Pro < ESP < Champ < Z < Star < Big Z < Titanium.

Notice I did not put G* on my list at all as I see this as just a diffent feel of regular Star whilst Ti is a complete diffent blend from the other Discraft blends.

I would say Electron is more durable than DX but less than Pro... along the lines if X but with a total diffent hand feel than X
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...There are no exact matches as Discraft uses a different base.
It's been a long time since I bought new Pro-D, but it is easily my least favorite base plastic from any manufacturer. Again, maybe things have changed... but it used to be terrible. And that should mean something since I'm not a harsh critic at all.

IMO, MVP Electron and Gateway's Sur-Grip are the best base plastics in the biz.

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...I would say Electron is more durable than DX but less than Pro... along the lines if X but with a total diffent hand feel than X
I'd agree with this. Maybe Electron is closer to XT. Either way, Electron/Pro-D/DX are the base plastics or entry-level plastics for their respective companies.

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I'm not sure what your priorities are for midranges, but the IMO the Comet is unmatched by any other company. Buzzz and Wasp are both great, too... but Comet is my favorite. Lots of good Discraft mids to pick from.
It's interesting you mention those three.....those are the exact ones I have my eye on! I'm not set yet on switching things up yet, but I do know that there is more likely than not a comet and zone in my future.
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No, the Meatball was awesome; one of the best production stamp by any company.
Orange-pink MJ sig/meatball Comet. Deliciousness.

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So....if Z=proton, does z flx=soft proton?

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[QUOTE=Marmoset;3545877]It's been a long time since I bought new Pro-D, but it is easily my least favorite base plastic from any manufacturer. Again, maybe things have changed... but it used to be terrible. And that should mean something since I'm not a harsh critic at all. [QUOTE]

IMO, MVP Electron and Gateway's Sur-Grip are the best base plastics in the biz.

I agree with the baseline plastic that Pro-D is one of the worst baseline plastics, sometimes DX baseline is just as bad.

Have you tried the Lighting Plastic with the DuPont flecks added to it? That plastic feels like good R-Pro that has a little bit of give but is not floppy where the disc is a dud nor too stiff to where the disc has no grip.
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So....if Z=proton, does z flx=soft proton?
Not exactly. Z-flx is much harder plastic than soft Proton, but just as flexible. Soft Proton has a tacky gummy feel that Z-flx does not.

Z-flx is as close as you will get, in standard Discraft blends at least. Maybe some of the Ledgestone Cryztal blends from the past may have been closer... maybe
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Not exactly. Z-flx is much harder plastic than soft Proton, but just as flexible. Soft Proton has a tacky gummy feel that Z-flx does not.

Z-flx is as close as you will get, in standard Discraft blends at least. Maybe some of the Ledgestone Cryztal blends from the past may have been closer... maybe
Awesome. I actually like that idea better.

Thanks for the help guys. I'll probably be in here a lot the next few weeks as I try to figure some bag issues out.

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