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Old 01-26-2019, 10:04 PM
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I want one in Z FLX plastic. Emailed them, they said they aren't planning to do that. Need more people to email them and ask for it!
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Old 01-26-2019, 10:38 PM
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I threw the ESP Avenger SS for a few years. I found it to be really touchy, it of course was flippy buy it was unpredictably flippy for me. I just never really had any confidence in them.
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Old 01-27-2019, 01:24 PM
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The AvengerSS was the first driver I enjoyed to throw. My first one was a green Elite Z, max weight. What drew me to it was I could release it on an anhyzer and have it carry the line. Or, I could throw it straight and watch the disc fly forever. It was about as perfect of a beginner driver mold as one could have.

A couple of years ago I received two in ESP FLX. I don’t toss them as often, but when I do I love how effortless they can be thrown.
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Old 01-27-2019, 04:55 PM
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the Avenger SS (ESP Flx) is one of my go to molds...

excellent bh and fh and will actually correct itself mid flight out of a nose dive to glide out longer... so useful

and yes, a little touchy... it's the one mold I lose most often

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Old 01-27-2019, 08:52 PM
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and yes, a little touchy... it's the one mold I lose most often
You wouldn't have that problem if you watched where they landed.

*once spent ten minutes looking for an Avenger SS Noill threw into the woods and didn't watch. Before he says it didn't happen, it was on the 4th of July at Marengo and he kept getting distracted by spiderwebs he thought looked cool (SQUIRREL!) and other things in the woods while I looked for his Avenger SS. mashnut was there and would totally back me up if he would ever login again.

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Old 01-27-2019, 08:57 PM
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An ESP Avenger SS was my first understable driver. Got some really nice distance with it, but it was touchy for me also. Was a fun disc to throw though.

I have since moved over to Sidewinders and Roadrunners. I have no complaints.
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Old 01-27-2019, 08:58 PM
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it never happened...

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nah, it totally did

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Old 02-06-2019, 11:35 AM
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I only throw about 300' bh and use the avenger ss in different plastic for most of my bh drives. the flx and ti has a descent stability for my and fly straight with a little finish. The z is real straight. esp turns but comes back a little at the end and the x turns over. I keep a fresh x pop top in the bag to hyzer flip for open distance which isn't that far.
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Old 02-06-2019, 12:59 PM
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I've had ESP, ESP FLX, and a Cryztal. The first two never made the bag permanently but I liked them. For some reason the Star Beast just fit better. My Cryztal was lost in the drink on 18 at Selah Creekside. I'd love to get it back but haven't had the chance to go back to recover it.
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Old 02-06-2019, 01:36 PM
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I am currently bagging 5 of them, they are my main fairway driver and my favorite disc. I can't see anything replacing this mold.

The Z I throw on tunnel shots in the woods in the 250 to 300 range. I try to keep it low 5 to 10 feet off the ground. It mostly a straight /hyzer flip disc. My current one is about 1 1/2 old, Sad day when I threw my old one in the pond. The current one is right about where I want it.

The Glow I got back at the beginning of the summer after spending about a year in the swamp. It tombstone in the muck and the part that was stick out got sun faded and the other 1/3 the stamp looks like new. I am still trying to work it back into the rotation. Basically it a more stable Z that fades out a bit more than the rest.

The really really beat in ESP, I've been throw for 4 years. It is the flippest of the bunch. I have thrown and rolled this so many time it just feel like second nature. Mostly its my roller disc that will always finish right. I also use it a long dog legs right.

And then I have two other ESP that I have been working in as back-ups to the flippy flippy one. I've had these for two years. They are somewhere in between Z and beat in ESP. Most used for rollers or hyzer flips with a straighter finish.

And I tried to roll the Z plastic but just didn't feel good on the hand.
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