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So this means take a smaller last step? Is it wrong to take a bigger last step, if one can remain balanced? I see the pros, they all take a big last step. So, I should start out with smaller step to get the feel and balanced then work my way up to a big step?
It's not that simple. Your balance is fundamentally incorrect. Once you feel how to balance on the right leg, you'll know how far of a step you can take. The better your balance and the more momentum you have in the shot, the longer that step can be...so the pro's have a longer appearing step although I'm sure it feels the same to them as when they take a 60% power shot.

I hope this image helps, let me know any questions. This is the same major problem that almost everyone has to break through, but it clicks differently for everyone.

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Old 02-07-2019, 11:41 AM
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My point is, even if you took a smaller step you'd just be doing the same thing most likely but it wouldn't "look" as bad. It'd just be the same thing at less power.

You need to make a lateral move and realignment of balance so that your spine is over your right hip when you land on the right leg...just like how on the backswing you have the spine over the left leg. This will allow your hips and torso to rotate over the right leg centered with the spine, rather than your hips just stopping where they are and your torso tipping forward.

You may not be able to draw a vertical line from foot through whole spine during a throw, as the momentum will keep you in "dynamic balance" but it will feel the same as if you took a one leg throw when set up directly over the front leg.

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Old 02-07-2019, 01:53 PM
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Thank you so much! I think this is my ah ha moment! I totally understand what your saying and know what to do. again thanks so much. I’ll practice this and update if I have some success.

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Old 04-05-2019, 08:02 PM
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I did some practice. I can definitely feel a difference and feel the brace. I want to see if I’m on the right track so far. Let me know thanks!

I also feel like I’m round a bit or hugging myself with this lateral move. Any insides with lower or higher body will be helpful
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Definitely progress. In general you are stiff and trying too hard, need to loosen up and make your swing longer from your center to throw far like baseball long toss drill. You are yanking the disc back and forth through the transition and about hyperextending your elbow. You need to abandon the disc away from you to gravity to the top of the backswing like you would heaving an axe into the backswing to chop down a tree and using it's weight and gravity to deliver the blow while your body smoothly gathers the momentum. You would never try to fully extend your elbow at the top of the backswing with a hammer or axe, need to allow some flex in the elbow for tautness through your arm like a ball on string or bungee, if you allow too much slack on the string/bungee the ball gets yanked around unpredictably and loose all control of centrifugal force. You are trying to manipulate or throw the disc/hammer/axe to some position away from you at the top of the backswing and trying to be too quick and strong, instead of letting it go do it's thing and just guiding it on its way to come back home thru the hit with heft and ease/effortless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu4CzVnITlo#t=5m56s
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Definitely progress. In general you are stiff and trying too hard, need to loosen up and make your swing longer from your center to throw far like baseball long toss drill. You are yanking the disc back and forth through the transition and about hyperextending your elbow. You need to abandon the disc away from you to gravity to the top of the backswing like you would heaving an axe into the backswing to chop down a tree and using it's weight and gravity to deliver the blow while your body smoothly gathers the momentum. You would never try to fully extend your elbow at the top of the backswing with a hammer or axe, need to allow some flex in the elbow for tautness through your arm like a ball on string or bungee, if you allow too much slack on the string/bungee the ball gets yanked around unpredictably and loose all control of centrifugal force. You are trying to manipulate or throw the disc/hammer/axe to some position away from you at the top of the backswing and trying to be too quick and strong, instead of letting it go do it's thing and just guiding it on its way to come back home thru the hit with heft and ease/effortless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu4CzVnITlo#t=5m56s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1pkfJtVq-8
https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forum...d.php?t=133733
Thanks for the reply! I had to read this a few times but I think I understand after rewatching myself.

So I need to stop thinking of “fully reach back” which locks my elbow/stiff my arm at my backswing. I need to just rotate my upper body which allows my arm will be looser and smoother at the peak of my backswing. Is my understanding correct?
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Thanks for the reply! I had to read this a few times but I think I understand after rewatching myself.

So I need to stop thinking of “fully reach back” which locks my elbow/stiff my arm at my backswing. I need to just rotate my upper body which allows my arm will be looser and smoother at the peak of my backswing. Is my understanding correct?
I had this same exact problem for a long time and it is as you said. Reaching with the arm throws you off balance and makes it almost impossible to bend the elbow. The right shoulder needs to stay compact and supported in its place the whole time.
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I need to just rotate my upper body which allows my arm will be looser and smoother at the peak of my backswing. Is my understanding correct?
I would say whole body starting with the feet, lower body is what turns the upper body but should be moving relatively more together. Your rear foot is too perpendicular and restricting your backswing, need to turn it back to allow the rest of your body to turn back further.

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I went out on this beautiful day and did some field work. I didn’t have a lot of field to throw and it was windy. So all my throws were dumpy hyzers on purpose.

Looks to me I still lock my elbow a bit but not as long. I am definitely are more reflexed and less stiff. I can tell my power pocket is a lot better as a result. I was barely throwing and it was going 280. Thanks so much sidewinder!! Let me know if I should just keep on working on this or need to fix anything else. You’re the best!
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