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Old 05-24-2013, 03:03 PM
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I recently dipped my toe in the MVP waters with a 171g Proton Axis in my eternal search for the perfect tunnel shot/hyzer flip disc so needed for our Charlotte courses. Very cool disc. If powered down pretty heavily (standstill-ish with moderate snap) it is a great hyzer-flipper for 250 ft or so. Only problem is if I give it normal snap on a hyzer angle (even from a standstill) with 300 ft power (with a typical midrange) it tends to leak out understable (and a long ways due to the wicked gyro glide). Not as understable as a beat X Comet but pretty understable. Do I need a heavier Axis to have enough fade to hold the straight line on a hyzer flip? Is this a freak Axis? Or do all Axis go understable if snapped well?
I throw my year old axis 300' on a rope. Check your form brah
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Old 05-24-2013, 03:30 PM
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Do you have to release the axis on a hyzer to get it to go straight like that?
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Old 05-24-2013, 03:34 PM
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Do you have to release the axis on a hyzer to get it to go straight like that?
If you release an Axis on a hyzer, it'll ride it all the way to the ground, on a clean throw, up to around 300 feet. Maybe more, but I don't have the arm to prove it.
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Old 05-24-2013, 03:36 PM
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Do you have to release the axis on a hyzer to get it to go straight like that?
Not if you have clean form.
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Old 05-24-2013, 03:49 PM
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Hmmm......I never get any turn out a Buzzz/Mako which look to have the same level of stability. I might be manhandling it, my results are similar to the flight patterns show on the Amp chart. Darn straight when powered down, significantly understable at full power.

http://i.imgur.com/QfJatRP.jpg

300 ft of Roc/Buzzz power with my form seems to result in 325 ft + understability with the Axis.

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Old 05-24-2013, 03:52 PM
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Unless It's a first run green proton, you shouldn't be having an understable flight path at that distance. MVP loves clean form and snap. Are you getting any wobble as it starts to flip?
Nope. It pops up quickly on the hyzer-flip and rides flat, just seems to slowly leak out left (I'm a LHBHer) on the second half of the flight. The "aerodynamic turn" portion of the flight just seems to go forever and I never see the "aerodynamic fade".

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Old 05-24-2013, 04:55 PM
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The biggest factors in MVP disc flight relative to other MVP disc are PLH and dome. Most of the variance within molds is from the earlier first runs. I have yet to see or experience anything about the newer disc, Tangent/ Tensor. The later runs of disc that I have seen have been extremely consistant. Weight seems to have less bearing on disc behavior.

When it comes to MVP disc and longer throwers, I look at what Mike C's videos show. I don't yet have a ton of distance, so I can't comment on personal experience with 300+' power. For me, if I'm throwing with poor form, my axis lets me know. If thrown with good form, they carry the line they are thown on, for me.
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Old 05-24-2013, 06:27 PM
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I was throwing my neutron axis 300' into a headwind with a slight hyzer today. It always faded out and landed straight in front of me.
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Old 05-24-2013, 08:44 PM
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After help from you all on the forums, my order has arrived. Vector, sparkle tangent, and dyed ion. So pretty!

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Old 05-24-2013, 11:43 PM
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After help from you all on the forums, my order has arrived. Vector, sparkle tangent, and dyed ion. So pretty!

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If you don't like the tangent at first give it some time! I sold mine right away and then bought another to give it another shot. I fell in love with it and throw it more than anything now.
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