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Old 01-25-2019, 10:51 AM
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. . . With so many viable options these days how do you keep your bag the same and how do you decide what to bag?
After tinkering with my bag for 20 years I have learned a few things.

The more I throw a particular disc, the more likely I can execute a shot with it. Consequently I don’t carry many discs. What works for me may not work for everyone, but some of my best rounds are when I carry a super-small bag.

Many similar discs can fill a particular slot in the bag. When I find a disc I like, I stick with it and find complementary discs that work well with it. If the discs are made by different manufacturers, so what?

Changing one disc often leads to changing complementary discs. Unless a new disc will be a significant improvement, I prefer not to blow up the bag because it takes time to really learn how a disc performs in different circumstances.

On the other hand, tinkering is fun. If you will have more fun continuing to tinker with your bag, then just own it and enjoy yourself.
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Old 01-25-2019, 11:26 AM
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Saw a guy on my course once that had eight (8) Destroyers (that's the number HE told us that were at the teepad). EIGHT Destroyers, and a lot more discs overall. I didn't understand why he needed EIGHT Destroyers, but I'm sure he felt he had the need for them, and if that's what he likes to do, so be it. Ditto that if he carried eight different driver molds to fill the same needs.

I saw a post a while back about the "17 disc bag". One putting putter, then 4 putters in the approach, mid, fairway/control driver, and distance driver slots, filling the Overstable, Straight-to-Overstable, Straight-to-Understable, and Understable slots. These can be filled by cycling one mold in each category, or all different molds. That can be reduced by having three discs per category, making a 13-disc bag, or even fewer if one doesn't really need a category (some don't carry any mids at all, or just one putter/approach disc, etc.)

My own bag is anywhere from 11 (real minimal) to 17 (max that my bag can hold) discs, depending on the course, weather, and if I'm trying new plastic. Whatever works, and whatever is fun.
8 of any disc seems a bit excessive. I know Destroyers have some inconsistency, but carrying 8 of them is ridiculous. If that were me about half of those Destroyers would probably never get thrown. They'd just sit there.

Only reason I could think to carry that many of the same driver is if you play courses with tons of hazards and you lose a lot of discs. I personally have never bagged more than 1 Destroyer at once. I don't feel like I need a whole gamut of flippy-beefy Destroyers. I'd rather choose a different mold if I want something flippy or excessively beefy.

On any given round I'll have 14 discs in the bag. Usually 1 of those is something I'm trying out for the day to see if I like.
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Old 01-25-2019, 11:27 AM
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Saw a guy on my course once that had eight (8) Destroyers (that's the number HE told us that were at the teepad). EIGHT Destroyers, and a lot more discs overall. I didn't understand why he needed EIGHT Destroyers, but I'm sure he felt he had the need for them, and if that's what he likes to do, so be it. Ditto that if he carried eight different driver molds to fill the same needs.

I saw a post a while back about the "17 disc bag". One putting putter, then 4 putters in the approach, mid, fairway/control driver, and distance driver slots, filling the Overstable, Straight-to-Overstable, Straight-to-Understable, and Understable slots. These can be filled by cycling one mold in each category, or all different molds. That can be reduced by having three discs per category, making a 13-disc bag, or even fewer if one doesn't really need a category (some don't carry any mids at all, or just one putter/approach disc, etc.)

My own bag is anywhere from 11 (real minimal) to 17 (max that my bag can hold) discs, depending on the course, weather, and if I'm trying new plastic. Whatever works, and whatever is fun.
If I was going to be true to myself and what I've learned about this game over the few years I've played, I would think the following slots would be reasonable:

-Putting putter + backup/throwing duplicate
-FH upshot disc (think Zone)
-driving putters/mids - Stable / neutral / US … honestly I think it would be reasonable to collapse mids and driving putters into one category
-control drivers - Stable / neutral / US
-firebird-esque disc
-distance - Stable / neutral / US

On top of that, add a max D forehand disc if your distance drivers aren't cutting it, same for a roller utility disc assuming you're having a hard time getting over on your core US discs.

Throwing Daggers which aren't great off the tee has sort of forced me to expand the number of putters I bag because I enjoy driving them so much, and I like to have a full spectrum of stability. I also love mids, so in practice I will probably be bagging a full 3-disc spectrum of mids and driving putters. For a winter bag I've considered bagging my backup dagger, some tweener putters and skipping straight to fairways, like:

dagger
zone
atom
mirage
leopards
gazelle
etc... distance and the like

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Old 01-25-2019, 11:31 AM
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8 of any disc seems a bit excessive. I know Destroyers have some inconsistency, but carrying 8 of them is ridiculous. If that were me about half of those Destroyers would probably never get thrown. They'd just sit there.

Only reason I could think to carry that many of the same driver is if you play courses with tons of hazards and you lose a lot of discs. I personally have never bagged more than 1 Destroyer at once. I don't feel like I need a whole gamut of flippy-beefy Destroyers. I'd rather choose a different mold if I want something flippy or excessively beefy..
I didn't ask him, but I figured he threw some of them for distance, and some for shorter shots; for example, he'd throw an OS Destroyer where others would throw a Firebird, etc.

Meanwhile, it's very cold for North Georgia today, but I'm putting together a small bag of just discs that I've recently obtained, such as the Bullfrog, Ra, Anubis, Jen Allen Teebird, Pharaoh, etc., and I'll see what they do on the home course...
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Old 01-25-2019, 11:36 AM
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When I was setting up my bag I initially tried to emulate Philo Brathwaite's ITB. Philo finds molds he likes then just carries multiples. I believe he only carries around 6 molds.
So I found discs that I could break in to find the flight paths I wanted. I tend to carry 3 of each driver mold in understable/stable/overstableish and then I have a Crim/FB for more OS work. Over time I added a few molds for fun like Flippy Valks and Z Drone but other than that it has stayed pretty consistent.
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Old 01-25-2019, 11:40 AM
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If I have a problem deciding which one of two discs to keep, I'll play a few rounds with just those 2 discs and see which one I have more confidence in.

One stays, one goes and then I start again.

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Old 01-25-2019, 11:53 AM
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Ha ha. The wand chooses the wizard.
This is pretty much my experience when I throw a Lat64 Maul. It should just be awfullly flippy, but give it a swish and flick, and wingardium leviosa!!! does that thing fly!

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Old 01-25-2019, 12:03 PM
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I've discovered the key to avoiding bag volatility. Are you ready? Here it is:

Become old and grumpy and cynical.

Let's face it. I've tried dang near a million discs already. At least enough to say that I can pretty well guess how a certain mold/plastic will perform in a certain set of conditions. I have a lovely bag full of a variety of discs. That assortment covers any type of throw I can conceivably execute. (And, as I learn frequently, my discs can also be used to attempt many other throws that are ill advised, and that I should not even consider.) A new disc will not help me throw better.

Trying every fresh option on the market is an endeavor for starry-eyed youths. I once had the motivation, time, and money to explore the growing throng of exciting new discs. I was carefree and I laughed at the old timers whose bags hadn't changed in years. New brand? Let's try it! Oh snap, I can get my favorite driver in SHIMMER star?? Better get 3. Every round was a test drive, and every league night I could chat about my most recent disc purchase.

But somewhere along the line, I lost that intrepid spirit. I've amassed enough discs that I could assemble a dozen complete bags. Yet somehow, I always find myself leaning on the old favorites, while years of experimental discs gather dust. To play well I know that I need to throw consistently and predictably; swapping out discs will only add more variables when I should be minimizing them.

So if you find yourself unable to settle on a static disc lineup, my advice would be: Embrace it! The ambition to try new things is the spice of life. When something strikes your fancy, don't hesitate to give it a toss. They won't all wind up as your favorites, but finding out what doesn't work is part of the process of discovering what does. Most importantly, trying different things will help keep you from becoming a disillusioned old codger like me.

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Yeah.
I wonder if there is a life cycle that pretty much all dgcr members go through. Where the typical member will increase their number of molds at first due to learning so much new stuff, and kinda going wild with all the joyous plastic. But, over time, they learn from other forum members that they are supposed to reduce their number of molds, and become lean mean killing machines. The next step is a dignified disdain for any of that overzealousness that newer members exhibit.

Eventually one becomes whatever it is that you would call the old timers in these forums.

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