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I miss old mediums and firms. I get why they are gone but OG firms even made fossil feel like it had some give

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Agree. Those old Mediums were ridiculous, the OG Firms even more so. Funny how people want g9i so much or PW or Fossil and yet they have no idea how stiff the old ones were. I have a Fossil Wizard that is super low shouldered, and only usable for throwing, not putting.
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Old 06-18-2019, 02:58 PM
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Yeah I would say if at all possible, feel them up before buying. Of talk directly to a person that can feel them up for you and describe them and you can ask more questions. Stiff erasers are indeed superb if you can find them.

I dont like floppy putters and thus have tried to steer away from SSSS at least, but even in SSS there are some pretty darn stiff ones that I have grown to like.

I have 20 or so Wizards and still not sure what the "high shoulder" means...
I'll take a picture next time I can to illustrate what "high" and "low" mean.
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Old 06-18-2019, 06:02 PM
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White is a first run Fossil Wizard. Low shoulder, better for driving. High shoulder on right is better for putting.
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......From your description, I'd say start with a stack of 5 different plastics/blends. My recommendation would be PW, stiff eraser, organic, firm, and SS.....

......They will often have sales on their website for 2 packs or 5 packs. Calling and placing a phone order might be your best bet though.
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Calling Gateway direct and dealing with them will get the best results. Mike and the guys there are very helpful.

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What do you like about the low shouldered for driving? I have 5 matching PW that were double stamped as seconds. They are low shouldered and not as stable as I want for driving.

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Old 06-18-2019, 06:26 PM
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That said they are mis-trimmed too so maybe the little bits of bead cut out caused them to be less stable more than the shoulder.

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I've hear that mentioned a few times in here. What makes you say high shoulder is better for putting just out of curiosity? Seems like more of a personal preference thing. I honestly like low shouldered wizards for putting, but maybe i'm in the minority.

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I've hear that mentioned a few times in here. What makes you say high shoulder is better for putting just out of curiosity? Seems like more of a personal preference thing.
It is a personal thing. Opinions don't always read like opinions online.

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As someone who lives down the street from the Gateway factory, I must caution you that the wizard road can be long and winding, but the end result often feels like a completely custom made putter just for you.
When I was young, single and had disposable income I lived in an apartment just South of Dorsett & McKelvey. If that was me today I'd own 200 Wizards. It's waaayyy too easy to pick out a stack there.

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What do you like about the low shouldered for driving? I have 5 matching PW that were double stamped as seconds. They are low shouldered and not as stable as I want for driving.

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It's all subjective stuff, but for me the low shouldered ones were longer. If I had to call it something, I'd say the high shouldered ones lack some glide. I didn't find one to be more or less stable than the other that I recall really.

I used the high shouldered ones as putting putters and I didn't notice any difference in them, I just figured I had them and they were no worse for putting than the low shouldered ones so why not?

Now my shoulder is all fubar and they all fly more or less the same, which is another way of saying I can't really get any of them to fly like I used to.
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