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Old 10-17-2019, 11:35 PM
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Default Bag going into the off season help pick a US 10-11 speed

Dialed things in more this year than I have since before having kids, so for the last 8 years.

I am looking for a 9-11 speed straight to understable control driver.

I like cycling discs

400'+ power RHBH (teebird or Pd2)
300' power RHFH (DD3)

My bag basic break down, plus extra info on the discs on each side of the void:

Polecat-Berg

Wizards

Gilas-Comet

Teebirds
11x beat, flippy. lower power straight drives to rollers
Star broken in. Straight, line shaper. Sneaky long (see beginning of my problems)
Star Fresh pretty OS good for placing shorter fairway drives.

Predators
4 point Beat. Flys similar to my broken in star teebird, but longer and more predictable finish. Surprising glide.
4 point fresh. OS utility

Pd2s
Bomber run. Max D. Overstable (max d and cut) rollers
Lizotte C line Control Max D where skips are ok. Does not get a lot of use cause I can place the teebirds almost as far.
OS Run. Super wind and flex shots.


I love CD2s and Escapes.
I really liked CD2s but have not been too happy with recent runs. I can place these better than Escapes.
Escapes are a newer addition. They go further than CD2s but I cannot work as many lines. They are straight to understable. They don't need the height the teebirds do, but I rarely reach for them. For now they may still hold the spot and I will see if they get more work.

I think the 10-11 speed is closer to what I am looking for. What does everyone suggest? Wraith, Surge, Crank? Trilogy? Orc? Legacy? I am open!

I know there are a lot of discs that fit between the Teebird and PD2...
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Old 10-17-2019, 11:58 PM
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Wraith?
Yes.

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Old 10-18-2019, 12:45 AM
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I say get an Archon or Valkyrie for the slot in Pro then beat/wear the disc in. so you have a slight US newer disc to super US mold older disc. I say Pro over DX due to the fact that Pro will not beat up as bad with chips and chunks and more then likely wear in like a quick Star plastic, the way that feels when worn in.
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Old 10-20-2019, 08:21 PM
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If you want to cycle, Pro Wraiths.

You can also try Beasts in a variety of plastics.

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Old 10-22-2019, 08:16 PM
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I didnt think of beasts. A long while ago I liked beasts, but never was a big fan of the retool. I think I am going to start with wraiths. I would love to bag CD3s (seems logical since I am basically looking for a slightly longer CD2) but I will probably have the same issue that I did with CD2s

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Old 10-24-2019, 08:47 AM
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I'd recommend a Vulture. Should fit right in between the predator and teebird, being straight enough and long enough to not really overlap with either, with a definitive clear choice of when to reach for a PD2.

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Old 10-24-2019, 11:21 AM
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What don't you like about the current CD2 runs? Too flippy? I think a Wraith is generally too overstable for what you're looking for, unless you go lighter weight.

Have you ever tried a CD? Slightly faster and more overstable than a CD2.
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Old 10-24-2019, 01:53 PM
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CDs are oop but I would love if They weren't. Finding consistent runs of CD2s has been hard. Roaming thunders are borderline PDs as were the last stock S line run I tried. I am also getting a ton of distance out of teebirds and am mostly looking to step up from the escape/cd2 in speed to spread out the gap between teebirds and my stable distance drivers. Really I guess I am looking for a stable to understable not warp speed distance driver.
I remember wraiths flipping up to flat and turning gently out of the box. Much like cd2s.

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Wraiths are more overstable than CD2's in my experience. Maybe you got a freak stock stamp CD2, because I've tried 3 recent S-lines and they've all been similar. Straight-to-understable is a good description, they will hold a turn without burning over.

The first round of Roaming Thunder CD2's were PD stable, in fact I use mine as a stand-in for my PD. But the new RT2's that were just released have much less stability. I would call them solidly stable-to-understable. They will hold a turn and flex out at the very end, just like the stock stamps that I've tried.
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Wraiths are more overstable than CD2's in my experience. Maybe you got a freak stock stamp CD2, because I've tried 3 recent S-lines and they've all been similar. Straight-to-understable is a good description, they will hold a turn without burning over.

The first round of Roaming Thunder CD2's were PD stable, in fact I use mine as a stand-in for my PD. But the new RT2's that were just released have much less stability. I would call them solidly stable-to-understable. They will hold a turn and flex out at the very end, just like the stock stamps that I've tried.
On a flat hard throw my Bomber run SPD2s turn just as much as the og romaing thunders, my 2 stock stamps and my 2 black ink S lines... My C Lines had more turn for sure. Still love them, but am getting similar lines and am more comfortable 375-400 with one of my teebirds. The CD2s do go a little further, and do not require the height. Just looking for a step up.

Wraith came to mind because of my experience with them when they were released. Less Stable than an ORC, similar glide and a bit more distance. Just a little touchier.

I know its getting away from what I was originally asking about but how about a Crank/Wraith comparison. (If only I could find old Surges again I would probably be set.)
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