Old 04-17-2014, 01:16 PM
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I have to agree with an above post, the Vibram Trak is great. I only had the Ascent for a long time and it worked really well. Overall the Trak is more versatile but when you pair the two midrange is covered.
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Old 04-17-2014, 01:20 PM
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I'd also suggest the Legacy Patriot.

My perspective is limited as I've played for just over a year (granted a 'live next to a course junkie-ass' glorious year) and intentionally limited myself to Legacy and Prodigy thinking that fewer discs would lead to fewer form-altering variables (and fewer discs to buy). This said, I'm often told the Patriot is derived from the Leopards, and I throw an Icon plastic, well-worn, max weight (175) Patriot for straight/flip shots at lower armspeed. Any slower and I'd reach for my M4.

Those are my two cents. Patriots are sweet.
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Old 04-17-2014, 01:22 PM
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You'd be amazed what a glow leopard can do, or the awesomeness of a pro line ($$$). I carry a pro line, old star, pre-barry champ, and glow. They all serve separate functions.
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Old 04-17-2014, 01:35 PM
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You should look into the MVP slow fairway class. Resistor- very over stable fairway driver. Servo- slightly over stable or neutral depending on weight and plastic. Switch- slightly under stable. Also the axiom Crave which slots in between the servo and switch.

proton plastic is like champion and is a bit more over stable than the neutron plastic

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Old 04-17-2014, 01:53 PM
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MVP Servo is about what you're looking for, I figure.
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Old 04-17-2014, 03:08 PM
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Tl, champ around 168-170, star tl 172ish. Vibram track in the firm, not medium. Same weight. I'd call the trak a longer leopard. Very similar, track slightly faster.

Or.. A river. Slightly faster and less overall stability by a little but it would keep your form tight. Recycled line or opto around 172, recycled line for a little more beef.

Patriots were great fliers when they flew right. Just seemed a little too touchy
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Old 04-17-2014, 03:20 PM
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keep throwing the t-bird
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Axiom Crave is incredible, shapes tons of lines and versatile. MVP Servo deserves an honorable mention also, more fade than the crave so its a little easier to range.
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Old 04-17-2014, 03:37 PM
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keep throwing the t-bird
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Old 04-17-2014, 03:52 PM
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you really should rock a teebird/leo combo

it's wam bam thank you ma'am

leo for powered down drives/turn over/hyzer flip.

teebird for spikes/stable/S curves

there is a reason after so many years pro/ams alike still throw these molds.

if you feel you want to cover both roles with one mold I would suggest the discmania FD jackal. there are three variations of the mold currently that cover different shots.
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