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Old 02-11-2018, 03:35 PM
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Behind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFu1...ature=youtu.be

Sideview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omsa...ature=youtu.be

I have been trying to slow down my form for sometime now, progress has been pretty good but I recon it would help if I were to get an outside view. Analyzing others is way easier, for some reason I tend to miss things when watching my own throws.
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Old 02-11-2018, 11:12 PM
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You start turning back early on wrong foot/center and drift leftward with your front foot not striding forward over the rear foot. Don't start the backswing until your right foot is floating off the ground and you are striding straight butt first, then catch yourself naturally as if you want to completely reverse direction back to the beginning position quickly/dynamically balanced like a skier turns back and forth.




Keep your toes on the wall as long as possible and lead stride with butt, your foot will catch up/sling ahead as you re-orient dynamic balance/center/spine/weight from rear leg to front leg. And part 1 hit your butt into the wall with weight/force, just moving back and forth a few inches/cm from wall with butt should shake wall/house:





Feel your butt/weight leading forward away from door frame, pulling/swiveling your body back further/later into backswing into the plant:
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Old 02-12-2018, 06:38 AM
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Yep, having trouble with that without any proper momentum. I feel like I have to do this small toelift from my rearfoot to get the weight crashing down.
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Alrighty, I figured it out. I΄ll try to post a video soon. I did not start the hip lead early enough when doing the x-step which led me to a position where I had to turn my hips 180 to get to door frame drill position.
Before: https://imgur.com/a/Tjj6L Cannot get any weight on my rear foot = No push unless I over rotate.
Now: https://imgur.com/a/eBHul Weight on my rear foot = Able to push, no need to over rotate.

Here is a pretty good view of McBeth doing it properly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMqAGcMdpLA
Hip lead starts right from the get go so you can get weight on to your backfoot and can easily push from it.
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That looks a little better. I'd still recommend stacking your rear hip over your rear ankle like in the Butt Wipe Drill for better balance and leverage/loading. Looks like you are setup/balanced more ready to center your backswing on the front leg rather than the rear leg. Practice just standing balanced upright on the rear leg only, mirrored One Leg Drill on rear leg for backswing.



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Old 02-18-2018, 01:45 PM
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BACK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvDRQj9ixao
SIDE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrp_NEffSD8

2nd set of videos, not as good quality thou

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I think you're still over the left toes on the first step of the X-step. I do this too, so it's familiar. Makes you then drift slightly left on the plant step, and then when you release the tension/pop up in the follow through your momentum carries you left. You can see this in the back view as you hop leftward at the end. I am interested to see what SW22 says though, because this left toe thing and pop to the left is what I do. And I am trying to fix it.
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I think you're still over the left toes on the first step of the X-step. I do this too, so it's familiar. Makes you then drift slightly left on the plant step, and then when you release the tension/pop up in the follow through your momentum carries you left. You can see this in the back view as you hop leftward at the end. I am interested to see what SW22 says though, because this left toe thing and pop to the left is what I do. And I am trying to fix it.
I am doing the first step on purpose. I am putting more weight on to my front leg, so I can actually build momentum with it + gives more room for my 2nd step to push forward and not stride like this \. I am quite certain that it΄s a good thing because otherwise I might as well start my x-step from the 2nd step. It feels like there is an uninterrupted flow to the throw. I would like to think that Wysocki does it too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwYvav4xCR8

That said, yea there is still something funky going on..
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I think I wasn't properly saying what I meant by first step...I'm meaning the left foot behind step. I'm referring to how in post number 5 from SW22 he shows Nate Doss' left hip stacked on his left heel with the green line. If you pause your back view video at the same point, so roughly 0:14, the line would go from your left hip through the ball of your left foot. That's what starts the chain reaction of moving leftward a bit.
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I think I wasn't properly saying what I meant by first step...I'm meaning the left foot behind step. I'm referring to how in post number 5 from SW22 he shows Nate Doss' left hip stacked on his left heel with the green line. If you pause your back view video at the same point, so roughly 0:14, the line would go from your left hip through the ball of your left foot. That's what starts the chain reaction of moving leftward a bit.
Ah yea, got it. I have been lookin at the same thing. That does make sense that it would push me bit to the left.
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