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Old 02-14-2018, 01:33 AM
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Default No matter the style my putts miss right

Putting has always been the biggest struggle of my game. I've struggled to find consistency even at the 10' - 15' range and am currently easily bleeding 4+ strokes a game vs hitting 90% inside 20'.

I've done the putting confidence program when I was push putting, during which i could get into a rhythm when practicing. But at the end of the month, my putting during a round hadn't improved much and suffered the same inconsistency.

It seemed to come down to one issue. A tendency to pull right away from the pole. And then a mental hesitation about pulling right that would cause me to short it or not commit. I'd rarely miss high but straight. Would often miss right to right and high. and would miss low often, but rarely left.

I'm about 2 months in to coming back to the game after a ~4 years away from it. I bought a practice basket for my apartment since I can't get to a course everyday. I've been cycling through a number of different variables. Discs, plastics, beaded vs no bead, spin putting, grips, stance.

With spin putts i'm struggling to not "over open" my wrist, though i have been moderately more successful with them in general. There is just physically less going on.

I'll do long sessions to try and build some muscle memory. Short sessions to keep focus. I'll hit 10-12 in a row from 15'. Come back and miss 3/4. I'll focus on my chain or on the pole, and put 4 putts in a row 1 1/2 ft right.

Anyone fought through this particular issue before? Anyone have a mental trick or form cue to help combat it? Its getting a bit discouraging. Its just a bit crazy to me that I've put in several thousand practice putts in multiple styles from 15' and still see no consistency at that distance with any of those styles.
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Old 02-14-2018, 01:39 AM
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Move your rear foot right.

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Old 02-14-2018, 01:50 AM
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dysmike is on it.

I think of my back foot as the rudder. If you miss right and you didn't yank the release, then move it to the right an inch or two. Try again. This realigns your whole body.

Especially if you have a stack of putters in your off hand and you don't rearrange your feet between putts, and keep missing the same way. It's one thing when I miss two putts in a row...but when I miss two putts in a row in EXACTLY the same spot then what did I learn from my first miss...

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Old 02-14-2018, 02:03 AM
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Move your rear foot right.
I'll give this a try and report back. There are certainly putts where I felt like my wrist, arm, body motion was correct that missed right and this is probably sage advice for those situations. My bigger problem though is the inconsistency in release with arm and or wrist movement.

I should add. I've had the most success recently with a putt kind of inspired by HyzerUniBomber's short arm spin putt. I'm gripping out in front of the disc with my index finger at 12 o'clock and the disc well tucked in to my palm and wrist. This has fewer moving parts and it seems harder to over extend my wrist and cause that miss right.
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Old 02-14-2018, 02:10 AM
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dysmike is on it.

I think of my back foot as the rudder. If you miss right and you didn't yank the release, then move it to the right an inch or two. Try again. This realigns your whole body.

Especially if you have a stack of putters in your off hand and you don't rearrange your feet between putts, and keep missing the same way. It's one thing when I miss two putts in a row...but when I miss two putts in a row in EXACTLY the same spot then what did I learn from my first miss...
Yes its that yanking the release that I have issue with and don't seem to be able to fix.
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Old 02-14-2018, 02:20 AM
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Sounds like you are yanking the disc with index thumb pinch. Try out her grip https://youtu.be/pptxvrtN28o?t=39 She moves her thumb quite far to the middle, which makes its pretty tough to yank the disc with index/thumb.

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Old 02-14-2018, 02:47 AM
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Sounds like you are yanking the disc with index thumb pinch. Try out her grip https://youtu.be/pptxvrtN28o?t=39 She moves her thumb quite far to the middle, which makes its pretty tough to yank the disc with index/thumb.
Ok so I've immediately incorporated some things and notice some consistency here.

I'm taking a much more angled stance at the basket with my feet almost in a line with it. This seems to be making it much easier to keep my arm on line.

Combined with pinching the thumb and middle finger in the middle with my finger on the rim, my wrist is not overextending much.
After practicing it a bit i took 20 from 15'. Missed one a bit low and left and one a foot right. This seems promising.

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Old 02-14-2018, 02:55 AM
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That's good you feel an improvement. You can also post video, from the side and behind. While there are so many ways to putt effectively, a good clean weight transfer with balance, and consistent arm motion is needed for everyone.

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Old 02-14-2018, 03:02 AM
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That's good you feel an improvement. You can also post video, from the side and behind. While there are so many ways to putt effectively, a good clean weight transfer with balance, and consistent arm motion is needed for everyone.
I'll get someone to take some video next time I'm at the course.

That is part of the problem with my in apartment set up. Can't really get beyond 20' where the weight transfer is more exaggerated and practice that effect.
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Old 02-14-2018, 03:05 AM
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Watch the consistency in how McBeth drives his back hip into the front hip to shift his whole weight forward. Hips start at like 45 degrees and end at 80+ degrees. On long jump putts he will be completely in line with the target, sometimes backwards slightly.


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