#41  
Old 11-22-2019, 12:15 PM
aphilso1's Avatar
aphilso1 aphilso1 is offline
Eagle Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Nebraska
Years Playing: 2.2
Courses Played: 27
Throwing Style: RHBH
Posts: 753
Niced 455 Times in 279 Posts
Default

I must have way better luck in Waves than everyone else. Every Plasma Wave I've had has thrown basically the same, and I've owned 4 or 5 of them. I don't like the mold in the other plastic types (neutron & proton), because they fly a lot worse for me and they mold up way too flat for an US disc. But a Wave in Plasma plastic is just perfect for my flippy driver slot.

Now as for trying to pair it with other gyro molds, that is a lost cause. The other drivers in that class fly way more OS and they don't glide well for me. If you're looking to pair it with a driver of similar feel, I think you're better off going Wraith/Trespass/Plasma Wave rather than trying to use the other MVP and Axiom molds in the same speed class. I had a season of trial and error with gyro, but only their throwing putters and the Wave stayed in my bag.
Sponsored Links

Niced: (2)
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 11-22-2019, 12:23 PM
ArtemisClydFr0g ArtemisClydFr0g is offline
Par Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Courses Played: 16
Posts: 128
Niced 41 Times in 35 Posts
Default

Only thing to consider with the Tern is that the rim is really wide at 2.3 cm. Same as a Shryke and slightly wider than a Destroyer (2.2). I prefer the Pro Wraith for this reason, but I do have small hands.
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 11-22-2019, 12:40 PM
ryanrockmoran ryanrockmoran is offline
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 16
Niced 10 Times in 6 Posts
Default

As a noodle armed person, increased speed does help if it's understable enough. I can get a Heat or Sidewinder out to 300 or so on a good throw. However, I can get a Shryke or Tern 300+ on an average throw and closer to 350 on a good one. So if I need to get 310 or so I have a much better chance with a faster disc.
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 12-01-2019, 09:58 AM
todvan todvan is offline
Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 14
Niced 3 Times in 3 Posts
Default

I hate when the OP never follows up, so here you go

The MVP Wave is Plasma plastic is now beating a hyzer flipped Z FLX Discraft Heat, but only by about 10 feet on average. The Heat has so much glide! A Champion Innova Tern is not quite getting there yet, but might when it loses a touch more over stability for my arm speed, or when my arm speed improves.

Thanks for the help!

Niced: (1)
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 12-01-2019, 01:12 PM
Monkeypaws's Avatar
Monkeypaws Monkeypaws is offline
* Ace Member *
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: SE Minnesota
Years Playing: 7.5
Courses Played: 60
Throwing Style: LHBH
Posts: 3,493
Niced 271 Times in 175 Posts
Default

For my average arm, having worked with and compared many fairway and distance drivers in the field, the disc I can get the most distance out of consistently is the Wraith. For me it hits the sweet spot of speed and control. I will occasionally throw something faster farther, but can't do it on a consistent basis.
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 12-01-2019, 05:54 PM
armiller's Avatar
armiller armiller is online now
* Ace Member *
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: West Virginia
Years Playing: 4.6
Courses Played: 183
Throwing Style: RHBH
Posts: 3,170
Niced 683 Times in 452 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by todvan View Post
Disc flight theory question:

Given that both discs are thrown correctly with proper nose angle at a medium power.

What flies further:

A stable disc but slower disc (say speed 7, turn 0) that gets up to proper flying speed with medium power.

-or-

An under stable but faster disc (say speed 11, turn -2) that may not be at full speed so it has just a bit of flip, but mostly goes straight at the same power.

Example: Teebird at proper speed vs Beast slightly underpowered. Just curious. Right now speed 9 is about my power level, but wondering if an under stable speed 11 or 12 would give me mor distance....thanks!
Quote:
Originally Posted by todvan View Post
I hate when the OP never follows up, so here you go

The MVP Wave is Plasma plastic is now beating a hyzer flipped Z FLX Discraft Heat, but only by about 10 feet on average. The Heat has so much glide! A Champion Innova Tern is not quite getting there yet, but might when it loses a touch more over stability for my arm speed, or when my arm speed improves.

Thanks for the help!
I took a quick skim through the thread. We don't really know how far you throw or even what you throw. "Average arm" means a lot of different things. For distance, does that mean 280'? 300'? 350'? That might be less pertinent than how you get your distance, e.g. are you strong-arming and throwing with pretty good form.

That said, I agree with a lot of what's being said. Personally, I put a lot of stock in disc speed, and think my max ideal disc speed for my backhand arm speed is around 10. Nevertheless, for max D you are right, a higher speed disc will get you some extra D. For me, that disc is a Champ Tern. It maintains just enough high speed stability that I can consistently hyzer flip it without flipping it over. The downside, of course, is control. On tighter courses or those with a lot of OB, I'll usually use a Leopard3 for similar shots. In an open field, the Tern will get me 30-50 extra feet, but it just ain't worth it in some conditions.

And I've also had plenty of times where I've out-thrown a Beast or Tern type disc with a Teebird. Working on form and mastering nose angles and release points is more important than picking the disc. Also, when control matters, don't underestimate the power of picking a disc that works well with 80% power. A Pro Leopard is one that I love for those 80% technical distance shots.
Reply With Quote
 

  #47  
Old 12-02-2019, 01:18 PM
Rumpled Rumpled is offline
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 41
Niced 52 Times in 16 Posts
Default

Shryke, Thrasher and King are excellent high speed drivers for those of us who rarely throw 350'. I would add a Lat64 Goldline Sword as well; for me, once beat in it behaves like a much faster S-line FD.
I tend to throw discs too low so I have been throwing more 7 speed discs in an effort to learn to get more air under the disc. I have been hyzer flipping a Maul with great control for surprising distance.

Last edited by Rumpled; 12-02-2019 at 01:22 PM. Reason: Clarity
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Average distance variance between putter, mid, fairway and distance driver. gammaxgoblin General Disc Golf Chat 31 07-29-2018 03:02 PM
Please critique, I average around 250 feet max :( Asian Style Form Analysis/Critique 15 05-06-2013 08:47 PM
Average distance KniceZ General Disc Golf Chat 27 09-12-2012 12:45 PM
Average distance on your overhand shots Adaven Technique & Strategy 24 06-22-2009 10:56 AM
Your average distance Matt General Disc Golf Chat 27 06-17-2009 12:10 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:58 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.