#41  
Old 05-18-2020, 02:08 PM
jakebake91 jakebake91 is offline
Double Eagle Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: West Central Wisconsin
Years Playing: 4.4
Courses Played: 7
Throwing Style: RHBH
Posts: 1,734
Niced 1,243 Times in 622 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marmoset View Post

On the Avatar conversation, I'm surprised to see Innova still uses the clunky injection points on their overmolds.
Over molding is pretty tough to do. That's probably the easiest way (without looking at their process first-hand). Doing it with their knack for awesome (sarcasm) QC is even harder.

I'm surprised they are doing it at all. It's really not their forte. At all.
Sponsored Links

Niced: (2)
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 05-18-2020, 02:11 PM
jakebake91 jakebake91 is offline
Double Eagle Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: West Central Wisconsin
Years Playing: 4.4
Courses Played: 7
Throwing Style: RHBH
Posts: 1,734
Niced 1,243 Times in 622 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hurricaine View Post
Innova, just make us a buzzz and a zone
Don't you think if they could, they would have by now? The zone especially seems like a very hard to replicate disc.
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 05-18-2020, 02:16 PM
wolfhaley's Avatar
wolfhaley wolfhaley is online now
Double Eagle Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: WI
Years Playing: 16.5
Courses Played: 525
Throwing Style: RHBH
Posts: 1,782
Niced 1,535 Times in 731 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jakebake91 View Post
Don't you think if they could, they would have by now? The zone especially seems like a very hard to replicate disc.
There's basically clones of every disc out there now it seems. You'd think they could come up with something. The Aviar X3 is probably the closest I know of and it's pretty different.
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 05-18-2020, 04:03 PM
hurricaine hurricaine is offline
Birdie Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: MICHIGAN
Posts: 263
Niced 181 Times in 80 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jakebake91 View Post
Don't you think if they could, they would have by now? The zone especially seems like a very hard to replicate disc.
HOW!? replicate it and change it by .002" somewhere lmao.
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 05-18-2020, 04:22 PM
jakebake91 jakebake91 is offline
Double Eagle Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: West Central Wisconsin
Years Playing: 4.4
Courses Played: 7
Throwing Style: RHBH
Posts: 1,734
Niced 1,243 Times in 622 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hurricaine View Post
HOW!? replicate it and change it by .002" somewhere lmao.
Innova struggles with .030 sometimes,how are they hitting .002?

Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 05-18-2020, 04:52 PM
Casey 1988 Casey 1988 is offline
Shun the frumious Bandersnatch!
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Pierre, South Dakota, USA
Years Playing: 17.3
Courses Played: 25
Throwing Style: RHBH
Posts: 6,893
Niced 1,147 Times in 953 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfhaley View Post
There's basically clones of every disc out there now it seems. You'd think they could come up with something. The Aviar X3 is probably the closest I know of and it's pretty different.
And the Rat is the closest Shape I have seen in a Disc to the Zone, even that is not close unless you are using a slightly broken in Zone in a Baseline Pro D or softer durability plastic like Soft X or Jawbreaker as the other plastics take years to break in. A Zone is Speed 3.5-4 to the Discraft chart so according to most the Zone mold is a fast approach putter or slow midrange approach disc, this means a Zone like disc need not be labeled a putter. If I owned a disc golf company that made discs, we would label the discs by speed rather then the traditional categories, as some slow midrange or putter shaped midrange can work for approach stuff as well as for the driving putter, with some small diameter putter shape midrange that are minor overstable to minor understable can be used for putting.
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 05-18-2020, 04:59 PM
Casey 1988 Casey 1988 is offline
Shun the frumious Bandersnatch!
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Pierre, South Dakota, USA
Years Playing: 17.3
Courses Played: 25
Throwing Style: RHBH
Posts: 6,893
Niced 1,147 Times in 953 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Streets View Post
Oh I know he's talking about the Caiman, which has a microbead according to Innova's site. The Aviar P&A is a beadless mold, so I'm not sure how the CAIman is supposed to have a beadless putter's bead.
I am referring to the Micro Mini bead that the Aviar P&A currently has, it is very small almost not noticeable, you have to look for it to spot it. Basically almost no bead at all to the mold.
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 05-18-2020, 05:30 PM
tbird888's Avatar
tbird888 tbird888 is offline
Salient Disc Test Team
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Blue Ash, OH
Years Playing: 15.7
Courses Played: 220
Throwing Style: LHBH
Posts: 16,862
Niced 1,591 Times in 831 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Casey 1988 View Post
I am referring to the Micro Mini bead that the Aviar P&A currently has, it is very small almost not noticeable, you have to look for it to spot it. Basically almost no bead at all to the mold.
Pics or it didn't happen.

I would agree with you if you said the Magnet because it definitely has one of those weird baby beads, but I know of only beadless, small bead, and big bead. Always open to learning about another Aviar variant though.
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 05-19-2020, 08:17 AM
Streets's Avatar
Streets Streets is offline
* Ace Member *
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Years Playing: 10
Courses Played: 46
Throwing Style: RHBH
Posts: 9,773
Niced 5,172 Times in 2,161 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Casey 1988 View Post
I am referring to the Micro Mini bead that the Aviar P&A currently has, it is very small almost not noticeable, you have to look for it to spot it. Basically almost no bead at all to the mold.
Biscoe and Marmoset have pretty much settled the issue. Once again, you don't know what you are talking about, so just stop it.

Niced: (1)
Reply With Quote
 

  #50  
Old 05-19-2020, 09:17 AM
hurricaine hurricaine is offline
Birdie Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: MICHIGAN
Posts: 263
Niced 181 Times in 80 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jakebake91 View Post
Innova struggles with .030 sometimes,how are they hitting .002?
I see some jank ass tool shops able to modify .002". I doubt theyre using the best tool makers but they gotta be better than the hillbilly tool shops ive seen
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:30 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.