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Old 07-05-2016, 10:08 PM
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OK. allenhoop. set me up.

I'm 63, an experienced golfer (PDGA #1476) with some shoulder issues. Because of my limited range (300 ft) I seldom throw anything longer than a fairway/control driver. I usually stick with stable or understable discs and I love discs with a lot of grip. I'm also a disc minimalist who likes to keep my bag VERY simple.

If I were to call you at Gateway and order your 5-disc special, what would you put in my box? It's totally your call. Please include type of plastic and weight range, too. Have fun! :-)
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Old 07-06-2016, 01:49 AM
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I'm confused a little bit by the low profile putter lineup. You have the Chief, the Chief OS and the Shaman. Does the Chief have the Wizard wing, the Chief OS a new different wing, and the Shaman the Magic wing? Then you have the Devilhawk and Warspear that have a grooved top. I think the Warspear and Shaman have the same wing; does the Devilhawk use the Wizard/Chief wing? How would they line up most-to-least stable? I've heard that both the Devilhawk and Chief OS are beefy, but I don't know how the rest of them line up stability-wise. Thanks.
Pretty sure you have that right as far as wings go. The Chief OS has its own wing, it is very similiar to a Breaker. As far as stability the OS, to me, is a 2 on lss, I'd rate it 4/2/0/2 overall. It bombs too, definitely a midrange really, not a putter. The Chief is a neutral flier, and a easy to control appraoch disc as it doesn't have a ton of glide either. I haven't thrown the warspear or devilhawk, but from what I've heard it is probably devilhawk, chief os, warspear, chief, and then shaman starting with the most OS.
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Old 07-06-2016, 07:15 AM
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The devil hawk has the same wing as the chief os the warspear has the shaman wing. The devil hawk and warspear are both very over stable with low glide. IMO they are very close to each other in flight.
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Old 07-06-2016, 09:07 AM
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Would either of those be close to a pig in flight?
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Old 07-06-2016, 09:22 AM
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Because "Soft" doesn't refer to flexibility like every other manufacturer uses it? It's a poor choice for plastic blend terminology, but it is what it is.
what do soft, super soft, super stoopid soft and medium refer to then if not their flexibility or firmness?
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Old 07-06-2016, 09:25 AM
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I think the Devil Hawk is close to a Pig stability wise. Its been a few years since I thew a Pig but I think the Devil Hawk is a touch slower. Once the sharp edges wear off of the Devil Hawk it doesn't start to fade immediately and gains a little length.
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Old 07-06-2016, 09:30 AM
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what do soft, super soft, super stoopid soft and medium refer to then if not their flexibility or firmness?
The plastic blend. I agree it's a poor choice of adjectives for plastic blends, but it's what they use. It's not the first time terms are used poorly/incorrectly, and I guarantee it won't be the last. :shrug:
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Old 07-06-2016, 09:46 AM
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Would either of those be close to a pig in flight?
Sorry I can't do a good head to head test. I have a few Devil Hawks but my only Pig is an old beat 165 Pro Pig from 2008.
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Old 07-06-2016, 10:00 AM
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The plastic blend. I agree it's a poor choice of adjectives for plastic blends, but it's what they use. It's not the first time terms are used poorly/incorrectly, and I guarantee it won't be the last. :shrug:
The guy who is actually supposed to be speaking for the gateway said earlier in this thread that the S/SS/SSS are supposed to refer to the flex rating only, NOT the plastic blend at all which is why you can have S that is hard and slick or S that is softer (but still stiff).
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Old 07-06-2016, 10:03 AM
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Are you sure about that? Here's what Gateway's always used to describe their blends. Looks to me like the Soft, Medium, etc describes plastic blend and a number that isn't shared is the flexibility rating for that blend.
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