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Old 02-17-2020, 12:32 PM
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The Z and ESP Zones I've tried have been super slick, which might be one of the reason I never liked the disc (blasphemy, I know). But I've had Forces and Vultures from a couple seasons ago in Z that felt great. Maybe that's more to do with more recent runs of Zones.

I'll start with Z and probably Cryztal and see what happens. And since I'm stuck inside waiting out the last bit of winter to go away, I'll probably end up with a swirly Ti or two...
Rub the slick Zones (if you still have them) in some dirt. A bath in some dish soap and water can sometimes help as well with the slickness.

My Cryztal is identical to my old Ti interms of PLH, and it's very similar to a Teebird for me.
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Old 02-17-2020, 01:18 PM
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Rub the slick Zones (if you still have them) in some dirt. A bath in some dish soap and water can sometimes help as well with the slickness.

My Cryztal is identical to my old Ti interms of PLH, and it's very similar to a Teebird for me.
That stable? I ordered a couple from Paige's website before I saw this so we'll see what happens when they arrive. I know I'm going to hold off the Ti for now because no matter how "swirly" they are, they'll all still grey/green/brown.
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Old 02-17-2020, 02:16 PM
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That stable? I ordered a couple from Paige's website before I saw this so we'll see what happens when they arrive. I know I'm going to hold off the Ti for now because no matter how "swirly" they are, they'll all still grey/green/brown.
I should've been more clear with my post. They have a similar stability to a seasoned Teebird, think -.25 turn, 1.5 fade. I can get them to turnover, but given any hyzer and they will have a decent fade. I've also got another old Ti that is a shorter Firebird.
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Old 03-02-2020, 06:47 AM
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Anyone thrown the new Ti swirl and Z Swirl against a stock Z?

My stack of old Z starting to get to the more US side and i want a Stalker that flies like a longer "OS Buzzz" . . the Z Stalker i have flies more like a longer RB Buzzz, which is my more US Buzzz

But than again, a more OS Stalker might fly like an undertaker?
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I only have one Ti swirl so no idea if the flight is consistent from disc to disc, but mine is significantly more overstable than a stock Z. I was throwing it into fairly strong headwind yesterday with no flip. It was flying very similar lines to a fresh 164 champion Teebird that I was also trying out. A stock Z would have turned hard.
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Old 03-02-2020, 08:27 AM
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I haven't thrown any new ones but my Paige pierce ti stalker was more stable than my Z or glow Z's
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Old 03-02-2020, 08:33 AM
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So the Ti is even more stable than a Undertaker?
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Old 03-02-2020, 08:36 AM
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So the Ti is even more stable than a Undertaker?

depends on the plastic. A Ti Stalker may be slightly more stable than an ESP Undertaker.

I threw the ESP stalker quite a bit this weekend, and paired with a cryztal I think will fill the role of control driver for my bag really well. Didn't miss throwing the undertaker for those shots.
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Old 03-02-2020, 08:44 AM
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depends on the plastic. A Ti Stalker may be slightly more stable than an ESP Undertaker.

I threw the ESP stalker quite a bit this weekend, and paired with a cryztal I think will fill the role of control driver for my bag really well. Didn't miss throwing the undertaker for those shots.
Nice, i have a ESP on the way. . have you thrown the stock Z and can compare it to the ESP Stalker?

Those CryZtal ones are hard to find. . i have my hope to the Tour Series Z Swirl
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Old 03-02-2020, 09:17 AM
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Nice, i have a ESP on the way. . have you thrown the stock Z and can compare it to the ESP Stalker?

Those CryZtal ones are hard to find. . i have my hope to the Tour Series Z Swirl
Out of the box they are fairly similar. I prefer the ESP option because they are easier to cycle because Z takes so long to beat in. I have a cryztal stalker from a 2013 tournament that is basically brand new. I think Paige is still selling cryztal on her website? I haven't thrown a Ti stalker but it might be a viable alternative.
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