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Old 05-04-2018, 02:32 PM
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Default Whitehall closes for oak wilt concerns

Is this a real concern or NIMBISM?
http://www.mlive.com/news/muskegon/i...olf_cours.html
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Old 05-04-2018, 04:24 PM
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Sounds like a bunch of anti disc golf NIMBYs to me.
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Old 05-04-2018, 05:34 PM
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As a life long 4th generation Arborist I can tell you it’s serious business. Remember what happened to the ash trees. Or those old enough to remember Dutch elm disease and how it changed the Detroit area forever. Unfortunately I don’t hold much confidence in the state of Michigan. I don’t know what they have planned but they screwed the pooch on the ash borer. We also have a new disease attacking pear trees as well. If you go to the UP you will find the beech trees are almost all wiped out. It’s really sad. I don’t have an answer personally. But it’s definately not anti disc golfers. In a seminar this winter, disc golf was brought up as contributing to oak wilt. Just look at some of the trees near a tee on any course. Remember everyone don’t move any kind of firewood. Someone from Wisconsin moved firewood to the UP and now we have oak wilt in south west of UP. Very disappointing I have played Whitehall and it’s one of my favs.
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Old 05-04-2018, 05:48 PM
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Pretty sure the course the article refers to is this one:

https://www.dgcoursereview.com/mobil...se.php?id=8998


Not to be confused with:
https://www.dgcoursereview.com/mobil...se.php?id=2008

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Old 05-04-2018, 09:50 PM
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well, I was a little taken back by the article. for one I'm a big Michigan fan for outdoor recreation. even though i'm not a resident.

in terms of tree diseases I'm very familiar with ash borere cause i'm an avid forest dweller and furniture builder.

the ash borer in our woods wiped out the ash trees much later than the city ash trees that were still treated. my opionion on that is any serious disease is going to spread on its own accord. it just a matter of time.

so what I learned was that really we can't do much about it, once it starts it just keeps spreading.

so, in no way am a fan of stopping outdoor recreation as an attempt to slow a tree disease. again, a big supporter of forestry and sustainable forest practices.

generally speaking outdoor recreation around the woods and in the woods helps promote our green spaces and the value of protecting them.

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Old 05-04-2018, 09:53 PM
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Lastly, I would like to add that if we can't access our green spaces, society will be less likely to vote on tax measures to protect them.

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Old 05-04-2018, 11:02 PM
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I still don't see how disc golf spreads a fungus....
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I still don't see how disc golf spreads a fungus....
Beetles carrying the fungus are attracted to the sap of wounded oak trees, where they deposit fungal spores which infect and kill the tree. Disc golfers can open a wound on a tree by breaking a branch or smacking a tree with a high speed driver at close range.

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Beetles carrying the fungus are attracted to the sap of wounded oak trees, where they deposit fungal spores which infect and kill the tree. Disc golfers can open a wound on a tree by breaking a branch or smacking a tree with a high speed driver at close range.
It may also be true, although I'm not 100% sure about this, that long term play and traffic under the canopy of an oak tree can add stress to the tree that could make it more susceptible to oak wilt than it would ordinarily have been.
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Old 05-05-2018, 11:36 AM
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It may also be true, although I'm not 100% sure about this, that long term play and traffic under the canopy of an oak tree can add stress to the tree that could make it more susceptible to oak wilt than it would ordinarily have been.
Never thought about an oak that way... hmmm.

An old man sitting on a porch once said, "You kids, stay off my lawn." hmmm
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