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Old 10-25-2020, 04:12 PM
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i dont need one

but i see many others using crutches
if you're not playing with only 1 single Skystreak and 1 86 softie, you're using a crutch

who would have thought different tools are good for different jobs, but I guess when all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail
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Old 10-25-2020, 04:37 PM
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Good use of Maslow in DG terms.
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Old 10-25-2020, 05:19 PM
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I rarely use my overstable approach disc, a ZFLX Zone, but when I need it I really need it. I think a lot of people overuse them when they could be throwing a much easier shot but I think it’s a good idea to have one in the bag.
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Old 10-25-2020, 05:45 PM
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Shortly after I started playing disc golf, I bought into the hype and started bagging a LE Ti Zone. That was back in 2015.

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Now I throw a slightly beat-in LE Ti Zone and have several Z, BigZ, ESP, and Cryztal backups that are more OS and ready in the event that I need them. I don't get the "crutch" talk. It's a disc and you can learn how to use it to make disc golf shots. In this regard, I guess I'm like Paul McBeth -- I'll keep bagging a Zone until my game doesn't benefit from having it around. And knowing DGCR, maybe I'm just missing the sarcasm in the posts talking about the OS approach crutch?

I will say, I eventually stopped bagging an OS "mid" in addition to the Zone. For a time, I had a Zone-Drone-Firebird in the bag. I do love a good Drone, but it just seemed redundant.

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Old 10-25-2020, 05:54 PM
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Shortly after I started playing disc golf, I bought into the hype and started bagging a LE Ti Zone. That was back in 2015.

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Now I throw a slightly beat-in LE Ti Zone and have several Z, BigZ, ESP, and Cryztal backups that are more OS and ready in the event that I need them. I don't get the "crutch" talk. It's a disc and you can learn how to use it to make disc golf shots. In this regard, I guess I'm like Paul McBeth -- I'll keep bagging a Zone until my game doesn't benefit from having it around. And knowing DGCR, maybe I'm just missing the sarcasm in the posts talking about the OS approach crutch?

I will say, I eventually stopped bagging an OS "mid" in addition to the Zone. For a time, I had a Zone-Drone-Firebird in the bag. I do love a good Drone, but it just seemed redundant.
Do look at the Discraft chart, a Zone is almost a slow mid. In fact the closet copy in terms of the shape NOT flight but shape, a Rat, is classified as a slow mid by Innova.
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Old 10-25-2020, 05:57 PM
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I bag an A2 (previously a Zone) for forehand approaches or OS backhand mid shots. I very rarely reach for it but when I do its because theres no other disc for the shot.
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Old 10-25-2020, 06:02 PM
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I think a lot of people overuse them when they could be throwing a much easier shot

I cant imagine an easier shot than a simple backhand hyzer approach with something like a Zone.

It just doesnt get much easier than that.

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Old 10-25-2020, 06:06 PM
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Whether you "need" an OS approach disc probably depends what else is in your bag.

When I threw stable putters (Wizard, Envy, etc.) I never carried an OS putter. When I switched to straight to understable putters (Colt, beat-up Stud) I found the Harp very useful, especially on open, windy approaches.

My Harp is medium and at least a year old, so it is more of a straight-to-fade disc than something truly overstable.

What you "need" to carry probably also depends on how many different speeds and angles you are comfortable throwing your discs. I prefer fewer discs that I know better, but different approaches work for others.
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Old 10-25-2020, 07:01 PM
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My short game is so reliant on my Zone that I have a hard time imagining playing regularly without it. I do think I could replicate its results with a softly thrown Buzzz in most situations, though. It would take a lot of practice and developing much more touch. A Zone doesn't require that much touch in my current stage of development.

One thing that using the Zone as a crutch has done leave me without a really solid, straight low approach shot. It's a surprisingly difficult shot for me.

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Old 10-25-2020, 08:48 PM
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At this time I have set up so it is James Conrad doing a long approach shot with a Gator at Myrtle Beach open.

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