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View Poll Results: What do you find most annoying about the new disc golf scene?
Kids, damn kids on my lawn. It never used to be popular and crowded. 27 17.53%
The sun is hotter than it used to be! 17 11.04%
The attitude that Ed's dead long live McBeth.. Don't these kids know where we came from! 0 0%
Trading "hippies" for "hipsters" 14 9.09%
Too many discs! Back in my day it was a putter, mid and driver. 10 6.49%
The reclassification of my current distance driver as a "fairway driver" 4 2.60%
Mowed and manicured courses, back in my day the rough was rough! 3 1.95%
Thumber, tomahawks, OH.. That's not how a disc is supposed to fly dumbass 8 5.19%
Some 14 year old throwing 200' further than me. 52 33.77%
I've got my own complaint.. See below. 19 12.34%
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Old 05-12-2019, 05:53 AM
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I've read a lot of the various complaining about the durability of the base plastics of say Innova and Discraft. The first time I read one of those I laughed because back in my day all we had was base plastic and we were happy. I still remember the first monster chunk I took of out my very first DX Roc on a sign.
There is a bit of difference of modern DX and older 2000's DX, as well as a ton of difference with Pro D and DGA D from before mid 2005. So about then in mid 2005 the Pro D and D went from being the best baseline plastic to the worst ever, even now when including modern DX in the mix as Modern DX will have years it is still flexible but only as bad as a bad flexible run from the 2000's. Yeah I would be using true baseline plastic more if it were more stiff then it is now, yeah it might work better in winter but the older baseline from Discraft and Innova are better in the late spring- early fall when most disc golf is played as the discs do not taco as bad in the older plastic nor do the older discs get soft and or rubbery in really hot weather. Yeah I am only 30 but I have played since late 2003 when Lighting was still in the top 3 of companies, this is including Ching as its own brand and not a separate brand making its own discs at its own factory that Innova owned.
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Old 05-12-2019, 10:47 AM
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man I miss the 80's, disc golf in my hometown was finally starting to catch on, here in my parts of Wisconsin it was either football or fishing before that. Our first course was so small that even I could make it under par playing par 3 on all 9 holes.

It was a lot simpler, our local sports shop only sold Innova and Discraft, but the store owners barely knew anything about disc golf much less know anything about the discs themselves, so we just ended up buying what we thought would work and learned by trial and error.

man I miss those days.
Even if you played it was sometimes tricky. I remember getting Cheetahs in the shop; I didn't order them, I didn't know they existed. I think we had ordered Barracudas and got first run star stamped Cheetahs instead. So I'm trying to sell them, but I have no idea what I'm supposed to be trying to tell people they fly like. My form was so bad that I couldn't throw it and know, and when I asked other people how it flew the answers were all over the place. It was someplace between a faster Viper and faster Stingray. I finally had to call Innova and ask. We got an updated flight chart with the Cheetah on it like a year later.

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Old 05-12-2019, 11:49 AM
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It was all about which one had the coolest animal on it... who wants a fish when you can have a big kitty.. Or a Scorpion or a Viper..

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Which animal/ stamp was the least likely for people to buy?

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Old 05-12-2019, 11:51 AM
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Even if you played it was sometimes tricky. I remember getting Cheetahs in the shop; I didn't order them, I didn't know they existed. I think we had ordered Barracudas and got first run star stamped Cheetahs instead. So I'm trying to sell them, but I have no idea what I'm supposed to be trying to tell people they fly like. My form was so bad that I couldn't throw it and know, and when I asked other people how it flew the answers were all over the place. It was someplace between a faster Viper and faster Stingray. I finally had to call Innova and ask. We got an updated flight chart with the Cheetah on it like a year later.
The Cheetah and the Stingray were the discs our local shop always seem to sell out of on a regular basis. the Discraft Eclipse and the Discraft Hawk were also hugely popular. We still have the course available to us now but there are talks about a waterpark being put in on that property which would wipe out the course completely. These days we have a larger 18 hole course as an option on the other side of town which is heavily wooded and more fun in my opinion.

I bet if I revisit that course I will throw the same way now as I did then. Back then I thought I was badass because I could launch a Stingray right under the basket from 225ft. After I got to bigger courses watching guys throwing drivers and mids 300ft plus I thought to myself. Oh Oh I have to learn how to that? This is going to be interesting.

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It was all about which one had the coolest animal on it... who wants a fish when you can have a big kitty.. Or a Scorpion or a Viper..

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Which animal/ stamp was the least likely for people to buy?
The Viper was a really terrible disc for low-power player, but I sold tons and tons of them because it had a badass snake stamp.

The Gazelle had the worst name/stamp for the kind of disc it was. You had to be an actual disc golfer who understood what you were buying to pick up a Gazelle.

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Yes a lot of my friends threw DX Cheetahs and Gazelles and Stingrays back in the day. And DX Wolfs, but that is a separate conversation lol.

I can remember playing Calvert Road with 165 Whamm-o Frisbees, probably early 1980s. Every shot had a low ceiling, so it was a huge breakthrough when the Aviar came out and we could throw "far" without putting the disc way up in the air or throwing a roller.

The first driver I fell in love with was a DX Raven, probably in the 150s. Little bit of turn and a reliable fade, until it got beat up. But we played maybe 2-3 times a year so even DX drivers would last a while.
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The Cheetah and the Stingray were the discs our local shop always seem to sell out of on a regular basis. the Discraft Eclipse and the Discraft Hawk were also hugely popular. We still have the course available to us now but there are talks about a waterpark being put in on that property which would wipe out the course completely. These days we have a larger 18 hole course as an option on the other side of town which is heavily wooded and more fun in my opinion.

I bet if I revisit that course I will throw the same way now as I did then. Back then I thought I was badass because I could launch a Stingray right under the basket from 225ft. After I got to bigger courses watching guys throwing drivers and mids 300ft plus I thought to myself. Oh Oh I have to learn how to that? This is going to be interesting.
I remember people bombing Eclipses, guys who could throw could hyzerflip those things a mile. I couldn't throw one to save my life, I could throw a Spitfire farther.

We put in a bomber course in '94. It was such an eye-opener that people could throw that far. We were so used to throwing 180' turnover shots through the woods that we never worked on just gripping and ripping. It was like a completely different game.

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Yes a lot of my friends threw DX Cheetahs and Gazelles and Stingrays back in the day. And DX Wolfs, but that is a separate conversation lol.

I can remember playing Calvert Road with 165 Whamm-o Frisbees, probably early 1980s. Every shot had a low ceiling, so it was a huge breakthrough when the Aviar came out and we could throw "far" without putting the disc way up in the air or throwing a roller.

The first driver I fell in love with was a DX Raven, probably in the 150s. Little bit of turn and a reliable fade, until it got beat up. But we played maybe 2-3 times a year so even DX drivers would last a while.
I was really stoked when the Raven came out and threw one as my primary driver for about a year before I got over the mental barrier of "this is a mid/this is a driver" and realized I could throw a Roc farther. I mean the Raven was supposed to be the Viper for people who didn't have the arm to throw a Viper. It just didn't quite work out that way.

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Yes, I found a DX Raven a few years ago and threw it for old times' sake.

Definitely underwhelming.

But Raven helped me learn that there were options beyond throwing straight at the target, so . . .
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The Cheetah and the Stingray were the discs our local shop always seem to sell out of on a regular basis. the Discraft Eclipse and the Discraft Hawk were also hugely popular. We still have the course available to us now but there are talks about a waterpark being put in on that property which would wipe out the course completely. These days we have a larger 18 hole course as an option on the other side of town which is heavily wooded and more fun in my opinion.

I bet if I revisit that course I will throw the same way now as I did then. Back then I thought I was badass because I could launch a Stingray right under the basket from 225ft. After I got to bigger courses watching guys throwing drivers and mids 300ft plus I thought to myself. Oh Oh I have to learn how to that? This is going to be interesting.
Before I ran into people who knew what they were doing (the CCR guys in Lansing at Grand Woods), I thought my 200' Stingray hyzer-flip RHFH was a great shot. It had the 1992 PDGA doubles stamp on it with the dinosaurs.

I had a Viper and Whippet with me too. Couldn't throw the Viper for crap. The Whippet was good for tomahawks like a baseball throw. Got my first ace that way. Lost all three of the Discs I've mentioned so far in the pond at Grand Woods in 1996.

I had a Cobra and Roc with me and couldn't throw either of them with a backhand. I COULD throw the Chains Aviar I had but not very far. I had a Lightning F-15 Eagle that I could sort-of RHFH. That was it. Just these Discs and my backpack.

I spent 7 years playing DG usually without ever seeing anybody else let alone somebody who knew what they were doing. I had no idea people could throw them as far as a whole football field until I saw a local pro nearly pin Hole #3 at Grand Woods with a black Cyclone. It was probably a 375' line drive shot on a straight-ahead wooded tunnel hole that's 400'. I'll never ever forget that. His name was Chad Sheppard and Jay Matthes (J-Bird) was there too.

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