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Old 12-08-2018, 02:21 PM
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Hmm, maybe...doesn't the wing look shallower than a Firebird? I don't think it'll be as overstable.
Agree. Maybe McBeast wants a less-overstable FB, and this will do it for him...
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Old 12-10-2018, 12:37 PM
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Vulture is noticeably less overstable than a Thunderbird in my limited experience. With McBeth's armspeed, I'm sure that could be a potential issue...

Also, McBeth mentioned the Vulture being larger diameter enough in that Jomez video that it made me think he wasn't a fan of that.
I have a Champ and a Color Glow and they fly like Big Z Vultures, but that's the only plastics I've tried.

I didn't take the calipers to them, but they look to be the same rim width. PDGA actually has the Thunderbird as being .1 cm wider. I know what Paul means though, because while the Vulture is only listed as .1 cm deeper, it feels much larger in the hand then the Thunderbird.
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Old 12-10-2018, 01:28 PM
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I have a Champ and a Color Glow and they fly like Big Z Vultures, but that's the only plastics I've tried.

I didn't take the calipers to them, but they look to be the same rim width. PDGA actually has the Thunderbird as being .1 cm wider. I know what Paul means though, because while the Vulture is only listed as .1 cm deeper, it feels much larger in the hand then the Thunderbird.
I've only thrown Star Thunderbirds, but they take a forehand a LOT easier than the Z and Big Z Vultures I've thrown. Much less sensitive to turn with a little OAT than the Vulture.

While the rim is in fact slightly wider on a Vulture than a Thunderbird(which might be the big reason the Thunderbird is more HSS for me), I meant that the Vulture is actually slightly larger in overall diameter than a Thunderbird. Or Undertaker. The two Sparkle FLX Predators I have are also slightly larger diameter than most other drivers.
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Old 12-10-2018, 02:36 PM
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I've only thrown Star Thunderbirds, but they take a forehand a LOT easier than the Z and Big Z Vultures I've thrown. Much less sensitive to turn with a little OAT than the Vulture...
That might be it, then. Star Thunderbirds (from what I've read on here and reddit) were much more OS than other plastics.
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Old 12-10-2018, 03:05 PM
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Think of the Vulture as a longer Eagle vs a Thunderbird/PD/teebird
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Old 12-10-2018, 04:30 PM
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Another speed 9 driver? Between the pred, vulture, and undertaker that can basically cover all your shots? Unless they are trying to make a OS pred/firebird replacement that is more modern and comfy in the hand?
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Old 12-10-2018, 11:36 PM
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I really hope they don't take the Predator out of production. The flight is unique and great. I think it feels really good BH (better than similar options in its class) but took me forever to like it FH.

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Old 12-11-2018, 05:33 AM
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A replacement for the talon maybe? *shrug*
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Old 12-11-2018, 07:49 PM
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Got a pink and a purple f'n Roach in the mail today. Prolly gonna hafta wait until the weekend to throw one.
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Old 12-11-2018, 07:50 PM
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I can't see McBeth FH the pred. He has complained about other discs for comfort reasons in the past.

Also I doubt if they make him a FB clone it will be less stable than a FB. He didn't keep the FD3 in the bag because it wasn't as beefy as the FB.
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