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Old 12-06-2018, 08:56 PM
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I only have one 2017 Ledgestone ESP Buzzz and...it flies like a Buzzz to me, maybe even requires a pinch more hyzer to keep straight. Mine flies like a BigZ. Maybe I have an odd duck.

177+ Z's are what I bag, but I have various LE runs that aren't more than a half a tic less or more stable. My local courses only require me to throw some form of Buzzz (incl. SS and OS) on 80% of their holes so I keep a couple practice bags chalk full of all the Buzzzes I've amassed. Some I know to add a pinch of hyzer more, but all in all, they're Buzzzes.
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Old 12-07-2018, 02:06 PM
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What's the least stable premium plastic you could expect to find in stock in a production run these days? My most recently acquired ESP FLX is very neutral, would prefer something I know I could replace easily, because after all, it's a Buzzz™.

Not so sure about that new swirly ESP - most of what I've heard from it is a lack of glide. Want a very glidey, very neutral premium buzzz.
For my US buzzz I use a swirly esp. I also go down in weight to 170-172 but I don’t find it to have a lack of glide

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Old 12-07-2018, 04:38 PM
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Yea anyone claiming lack of glide on any certain run of Buzzz is splitting already very fine hairs. A buzzz flies like a buzzz, thats why people love them. Less guessing from run to run. I threw my Ledgestone swirly esp today along side an older Z and guess what?

They flew virtually identical to one another. The magic of the Buzzz

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Old 12-07-2018, 04:42 PM
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Yea anyone claiming lack of glide on any certain run of Buzzz is splitting already very fine hairs. A buzzz flies like a buzzz, thats why people love them. Less guessing from run to run. I threw my Ledgestone swirly esp today along side an older Z and guess what?

They flew virtually identical to one another. The magic of the Buzzz
they should get their glideometer recalibrated

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Old 12-08-2018, 01:14 AM
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Haven’t got to throw mine too yet but my jawbreaker ledgestone flies quite a bit different but that’s what I expected.

I also have a few flag dyed ledgestone buzzz that are understable nothing like any buzzz I’ve thrown, I even had to buy a second to see if it was a fluke
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Old 12-08-2018, 06:03 PM
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the only time I really see much difference between fresh buzzz of different runs is when throwing powered down. The new swirlys do tend to hook up more positively than production Z buzzz. I have been throwing buzzz on and off (mostly on) since 2006. The new swirlys are some of the best do it all buzzz theres been.
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Old 12-08-2018, 06:06 PM
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I threw the more purple buzzz from my picture quite a bit during our weekly league today. It definitely has some fade to it compared to most buzzzs I’ve thrown.
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Old 12-13-2018, 03:50 AM
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What does everyone use as an overstable compliment to their buzzz.

Glow doesn’t have enough stability for me to reuse in the wind. Plus I can’t play with glow plastic in the snow.

I recently lost my first run buzzz os that was just starting to straighten out after idk 5 years
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Old 12-13-2018, 04:03 AM
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What does everyone use as an overstable compliment to their buzzz.

Glow doesn’t have enough stability for me to reuse in the wind. Plus I can’t play with glow plastic in the snow.

I recently lost my first run buzzz os that was just starting to straighten out after idk 5 years
My old Ti Buzzz and CryZtal GT is my most OS . . .but i use a MD4 for OS mid, great feel and glide. . i own all Discrafts OS mid but i like MD4 better . . if i hade too take a Discraft disc i will take the Hornet

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Old 12-13-2018, 05:29 AM
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I’m a Discmania nut never tried their mids cause I had a solid set up. I posted on the md4 thread earlier asking for some comparisons lol. I

I like those old to buzzz I had a doss one that was perfect
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