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Old 08-12-2013, 05:56 PM
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Force handles headwinds better than Rampages or Destroyers.
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Old 08-12-2013, 08:28 PM
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^ So does a Stiletto.

That's one of the best things about the Force for sure. The Rampage handles wind very well if you throw it with a little hyzer to compinsate for the initial high speed turn. Kind of a hyzer flip into the wind, but if you have to throw flat, then the Z Force is definitely better in the wind.
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Old 08-12-2013, 11:18 PM
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I did throw esp forces but always had to beat the crap out of them to get sum turn and distance. I didnt like that, so i switched to pro-line DGA hurricanes and they get me the turn and D quicker. The Z force is almost useless in heavy weights for most players, just plain beef and no glide.

I will say, when my esp forces found a sweet spot they bombed. It just took too long to get to that spot.
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Old 08-13-2013, 12:37 AM
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I've thrown Forces ever since I could throw far. I've been cycling them for a little while now. I keep 1 fresh Z, 1 slightly beat Z, 1 slightly beat ESP, and one beat ESP. I like the ones with more dome for distance. My fresh Z one is max weight and flat. It has less glide than the others, but handles a headwind no problem. My most beat up ESP one is similar to a fresh Star Archon with more LSS and glide. I found that I like Forces at 170-172g because they just fly better for me. Max weight ones are more for headwinds; strong headwinds. I threw destroyers for a while but they just didn't feel right in my hand, so I turned to Forces and haven't looked back.
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Old 08-13-2013, 01:13 AM
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I've thrown Forces ever since I could throw far. I've been cycling them for a little while now. I keep 1 fresh Z, 1 slightly beat Z, 1 slightly beat ESP, and one beat ESP. I like the ones with more dome for distance. My fresh Z one is max weight and flat. It has less glide than the others, but handles a headwind no problem. My most beat up ESP one is similar to a fresh Star Archon with more LSS and glide. I found that I like Forces at 170-172g because they just fly better for me. Max weight ones are more for headwinds; strong headwinds. I threw destroyers for a while but they just didn't feel right in my hand, so I turned to Forces and haven't looked back.
How far are you throwing? And how old is your beat force?
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Old 08-13-2013, 01:44 AM
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I have get my most beat one(171g) out to 400-450 usually. Max I've gotten is 475. That beat Force I got late last fall. So it's about a year old. I've hit many trees and roads with that disc though. I played through the whole winter with that Force too.
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Old 08-13-2013, 06:57 PM
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Yeah I'm getting 430-450' on laser shots with my fresh esp forces. Not much turn and not much fade. I'm loving these.

Has anyone successfully beat one in to use as an Anny disc? As of now I use a king for that shot but as of late it's been cut rolling on me. So I'm hoping that I can beat in an esp force to be an Anny disc... That way I have one mold covering all the shots! I'm suprised at the glide of the force. It really does keep up with any disc out there just faster to me...

Is there a big difference from esp to z in this mold?
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Old 08-13-2013, 09:46 PM
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The ESPs will beat into understability, but it takes quite a while. I had a pink one that I used to use as a roller disc before I lost it.

I found there to be quite a big difference between the ESP and Z plastics. The Zs I have are considerably more overstable.
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Old 08-13-2013, 11:25 PM
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I can now use my most beat ESP Force for giant annys and even rollers. I like it more for distance tailwind shots. I've been trying to get them beat to the point where they can replace my Archons.
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Old 08-14-2013, 12:39 PM
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I can use a seasoned first run Force for slight annys that come back and they are amazing for riding the wind. With the right shot they just go and go. I top out at 330' on flat ground but steep downhills with some spin I can get it really far 440+. My other first run backup is still really stable by comparison it's Firebirdish whereas my fav is more of a super Beast. So yes they can change quite a bit as they season. Z plastic is no good for me, too stable.
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