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Old 10-21-2016, 08:37 PM
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Get rid of par. Develop a scoring system based on not only numbers of throws but totalxd length of combined throws.

Example:

320 foot hole

Player A drives to 3 feet from basket. Putts for a total of 2.
Player B drives to 15 from basket and also putts for total of 2.

Player A gets a better score since he was closer on his drive.
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Old 10-21-2016, 08:44 PM
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...From my viewpoint, it would be nice to have a better standard, but isn't terribly important.
We already have a good standard. The problem is that TDs don't follow it.
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Old 10-21-2016, 08:45 PM
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Get rid of par. Develop a scoring system based on not only numbers of throws but totalxd length of combined throws.

Example:

320 foot hole

Player A drives to 3 feet from basket. Putts for a total of 2.
Player B drives to 15 from basket and also putts for total of 2.

Player A gets a better score since he was closer on his drive.
But player B made a longer putt.
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Old 10-21-2016, 08:59 PM
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Par is for spectators. Count your throws, add them up for your score. If your score is lowest, you win.
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Old 10-21-2016, 09:05 PM
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We already have a good standard. The problem is that TDs don't follow it.
No, we have a vague standard constructed of poorly-defined terms.
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Old 10-21-2016, 09:08 PM
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This has been kicked around ad nauseum.
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Old 10-21-2016, 09:25 PM
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No, we have a vague standard constructed of poorly-defined terms.
And yet, the events that make an effort to assign appropriate pars are all moving toward similar pars. Perhaps vague is good enough when you just need to assign a 2, 3, 4, or 5.

Or, perhaps it's less vague than you remember. http://www.stevewestdiscgolf.com/PDG...etting_Par.pdf
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Old 10-21-2016, 09:46 PM
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Or, perhaps it's less vague than you remember.
Nope, not sure who the "expert players" are, but it's the ill-defined "close range" that really causes trouble.

I salute your efforts. I just don't think the PDGA definition---or the equally vague PDGA chart of hole distances and foliage---works.

Then again, it doesn't matter much too me. I'm of the philosophy that if we're going to have "par", we should do the best we can, but that having a good standard would be nice, but not important. Under that rationale, I'm interested in the arguments you, and others, have made.
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Old 10-21-2016, 10:06 PM
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Because it looks easier doesn't mean the sport is easy. Who cares what non-disc golfers think. If they're gonna pick up the sport as a beginner they're gonna do it regardless of what the top pros are shooting. This argument about the scoring being wrong is dumb. Why can't it just be the way disc golf is?
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The reason the great scores is because the players are getting better. With pros taking 2s on 350 foot holes, there isn't anything to do about it. Making holes longer isn't the answer, as it won't appeal to us noodle arms or casual players, and adding unnecessary obstacles is just stupid. Well designed holes with the pros in mind will still produce really good scores. Some people are just that good.
I agree. I think we just need to mentally get past -30 or -40 being a ridiculous score and accept it for what it is.
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Old 10-21-2016, 10:30 PM
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smaller targets?
smaller halo/basket for majors?
inward slanted adaptor to edge of basket diameter, for smaller landing area?
just throwing it out there.
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