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Old 03-19-2017, 08:57 AM
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11x firebirds weren't really FAF. Then again, maybe I just need some clarifcation on this. To me, the 'FAF' firebirds were the REALLY stiff board flat 12x that were the most OS firebird ever made. Every 11x I ever threw was not nearly as beefy as those. I feel like 'FAF' has become a misnomer.
I have a 11x firebird that is 100% FAF. I bought it used, so I can't tell if it was ever as OS as the run you are talking about. But truely FAF 11x firebirds do most certainly exist
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Old 03-19-2017, 11:59 AM
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I have a 11x firebird that is 100% FAF. I bought it used, so I can't tell if it was ever as OS as the run you are talking about. But truely FAF 11x firebirds do most certainly exist
There are definitely board flat 11x champ firebirds. But the ones I've handled are a softer grippier champion compared to the rock hard 12x flat ones from that 2012-2013 batch.
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Old 03-19-2017, 04:19 PM
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All of my 11x Firebirds are FAF.

One of them is actually concave.
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Old 03-19-2017, 04:23 PM
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All of my 11x Firebirds are FAF.

One of them is actually concave.
I've had a few flat ones but mostly all were softer and had a slight dome. They feel a lot like the Sextons in grip and dome.
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Old 03-19-2017, 04:31 PM
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My 11x Blueberry. Not FAF.
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Old 03-19-2017, 10:14 PM
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I think alot of people dog get the "FAF" that run is more sought after because the Firm than the Flatness. I mean bricks. These things are insanely stiff champion blends. Which are absolutely beef cakes. I have had a number of 11x firechickens and none of them are as close to the ridged stiffness of that run. It was almost like a pre Jolly launcher kinda thing. I have also seen what I swear is the same plastic blends on some of the early Large Circle stamp Eagles the proshop released a few years ago. Just bricks.
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Old 03-19-2017, 10:31 PM
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I think alot of people dog get the "FAF" that run is more sought after because the Firm than the Flatness. I mean bricks. These things are insanely stiff champion blends. Which are absolutely beef cakes. I have had a number of 11x firechickens and none of them are as close to the ridged stiffness of that run. It was almost like a pre Jolly launcher kinda thing. I have also seen what I swear is the same plastic blends on some of the early Large Circle stamp Eagles the proshop released a few years ago. Just bricks.
yeah, like the 2nd run fds and 3rd run pds too.

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Old 03-19-2017, 10:47 PM
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FAF can have two meanings that are confusing.

FAF - flat and firm (12x 2012-2013 run of flat and super stiff champ firebirds)

FAF - flat as f#%k - a super flat firebird.

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yeah, like the 2nd run fds and 3rd run pds too.
^exactly discs that are made out of that 2012-2013 stiff and durable innova champ plastic. hold their stability for YEARS

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Old 03-19-2017, 11:31 PM
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I broke mine on the 4th. Second round first hole. I use the disc like atleast four holes on a non windy day. And it was pretty windy and I forgot my gator at home.

The round was recorded too! So I'll get to watch myself blow up.

I have a fairly stiff not faf 12xbut it's not the same

I also have one of the new "flat top firebird" stamped but it's gummy. I like it for bh and fh but not so much for skips and OH

Another quality of that run is it didn't take sharpy well. I can't say how many times I've rewritten my info over the last four years.

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Old 03-19-2017, 11:51 PM
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Anyone mess with lighter weight Champion Firebirds? Something like in the lower 160's. Everyone is hungry for the super beef/max weight/FAF Firebirds but about the light weights?
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