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Old 01-10-2016, 01:12 PM
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Default 1000+ rating pro skillsets

The path to scratch golf is a long and treacherous road. Many skills are needed. Take two pros and very likely the way they accomplish these rounds are different.

What skill sets have you seen 1000+ rated players use to achieve that level of play?

Who are some of the most unique 1000+ players?

Who are the shortest throwing 1000+ rated players?
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Old 01-10-2016, 02:07 PM
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In terms of shortest throwing 1000+ I think that yeti reading is probably the guy. He barely cracks 350 these days. But hes pretty much 100% up and down in 2 strokes from 250 and in. And he's probably still one of best players in the world.

Really any of the top Open Masters players are interesting. A lot of them don't have sidearms, don't throw over 450, and are still on the short list of best players in the world
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Old 01-10-2016, 02:17 PM
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I meant to say best putters in the world when I was talking about yeti
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There are two things, IMO, that separate Top level players from the rest of us. Their putting circle is a lot bigger and therefore can go for and make more long or dangerous putts, without fear of the comebacker. The other is just old fashioned natural talent/genetics.
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Putting of course is number one. You can be a 1000 rated player from putting alone like yeti.

Or you can be like wiggins and just crush. Ive noticed that if a person can throw 450-500 golf lines and putt and upshot ok then likely thats a thousand.

You can substitute controlled 375-450ft bh and a 350 sidearm with ok upshot and putting for 1000 rating

Or like schwebby, substitute the nasty thumbers. I don't know how far he throws or how good of a putter. Im sure its competitive.
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Watching some footage recently of Schebby, he's got a mean thumber game, his upshot and putting doesn't leave much to be desired either, solid all the way around.

I think the meat of a 1000 rated players game is the middle ground, upshots and putting. Driving is awesome, and the farther the better but there are plenty of non long distance players that are 1000 rated and don't necessarily bomb like Lizotte. I'd say 450-500 with a solid, dead on upshot and putting game and that'd do pretty well.
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What seperate the men from the boys is:

A) mental consistency - being able to execute a shot that you "mentally designed" in your head over and over with little margin of your physical error is huge. Picture a line that you need to control - say a 270ish hyzer that sweeps 50+ feet at the end of the fade - and you proceed to take your disc and throw exactly what you envisioned. Not many of us can do that. Mostly just the good ol heave ho and watch the disc luckily make its way to the putting circle.

B) putting range - pros have a huge putting circle. Within say 100 feet, they can go for the putt. They have confidence in their comebacker within 30' feet or so. They rarely 3putt from 100' while us mortals need more luck.

C) recovery skills - on the oft chance that a ninja branch nicks their designated skillshot or have a dreaded rollaway, they have the ability in their game to still manage an incredible executed shot to get back to the circle.

Pros come in all shapes and size. Not all of them are naturally athletic!
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Putting of course is number one. You can be a 1000 rated player from putting alone like yeti.

Or you can be like wiggins and just crush. Ive noticed that if a person can throw 450-500 golf lines and putt and upshot ok then likely thats a thousand.

You can substitute controlled 375-450ft bh and a 350 sidearm with ok upshot and putting for 1000 rating

Or like schwebby, substitute the nasty thumbers. I don't know how far he throws or how good of a putter. Im sure its competitive.
Schwebby is 1020+ rated, he does it all very good, distance and putting/approaching.
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@ ziggy

Talking top rated pros i agree. They are crazy accurate.

But being a 1000 rated pro is a lot different then being paul mcbeth.

The short game is what does it for most 1000's.

Take the average advanced player who makes about 5 mistakes. All you had to do was not make those few stupid mistakes and you shot a 1000. And thats with a putting circle of about 15-20 ft 99%.

Putting is a safety cushion for mistakes, extending that range to 30 ft 99% and the 950 advanced player can make the same amount of mistakes and still likely have a thousand rated round.

So eliminate mistakes or putting better are separate paths to success (1000 rating) for that advanced player.
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Schwebby is damn impressive. He makes it look easy, and at least somebody on his card always shows that it wasn't.

His shot selection seems to have quite a bit to do with it, he seems to regularly have a shot shape available that minimizes danger.

His putting is really consistent and he seems to have a great handle on the mental game.
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