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Old 09-01-2019, 10:18 PM
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The difficulty with designing even decent open par 5's in disc golf is the huge disparity in throwing distances of players. If they are long enough for the long throwers to be challenged to birdie they become a boring slog for the rest. If they are short enough to be interesting for the bulk of the field the long throwers eat them up like candy and eagles are commonplace. In my experience I can come up with good par 4 holes at the drop of a hat on virtually any property. Good par 5's on the other hand require better land and exponentially more brain power on my part.
I agree. This is why one hole at Oahe Downstream state park on the Powerhouse Ally Course changed from par 5 to par 4 due to tech change from 9 and slow 10 speed to 11-12+, then people able to study in Magazines and online the proper throwing techniques for distance forehand/backhand, to throw the lines well for the disc. Even on the long tee at almost 600 feet it is a par 4 due to being a wide open hole to the left, right is 15-20 feet right of tee pad a long section of brush/trees and other plants you can kiss disc goodbye unless one can get disc from the other side and even that is hard. So most people will make it out far to 270-300 feet minimum unless they are a hyzer honker every shot type player.
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Old 09-02-2019, 10:17 AM
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That's a fair point, Ryan, and is generally true about individual holes. I guess what I'm really saying is about the overall course. A good 8-6-4 disc golf course can be a lot more interesting than an 8-6-4 ball golf course could ever be.

(By 8-8-2, I mean 8 par threes, 6 par fours, and 4 par fives).
Gotcha. And I agree. We are better and offer more variety than ball golf. All I'm arguing for is not limiting us to better par 3s and 4s, and I think you guys understand that. While we may not be making a ton of great par 5s yet, we'll get there.

Please note that I've seen a ton of good par 5s from your courses John. Sadly, never in person, but one day. I simply mean the vast majority of courses don't offer them. If you only had the time to give advice on every course ever designed ...

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