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Old 03-13-2019, 09:09 PM
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If I was just good with words. And cool diagrams. Maybe I could get somebody to give me $3mil and 60 acres to build the next top course... And by good with words I don't mean writing every 3rd word in all caps and vague colloquy. I mean really connecting with the community, and the powers that be that have $3mil to spend on my conceptual designs...

in all likelihood the designs in my head would probably kill someone within the first year, so we better put some of that $$ towards a steep insurance policy..
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Old 03-13-2019, 10:03 PM
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I did get a chuckle out of his notion that no one would play those footworn courses.
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Old 03-13-2019, 10:39 PM
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As a former Maine resident, who has paid $5 for a round or $8 for the day, I fully endorse this post!
Yeah, I have to admit that Maine disc golf is pretty awesome.

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Old 03-13-2019, 10:40 PM
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Yeah, I have to admit that Maine disc golf is pretty awesome.
If not for those stinkin’ biting flies!!!
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Old 03-13-2019, 11:03 PM
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Yeah, I have to admit that Maine disc golf is pretty awesome.

I visited Maine about 18 years ago. I played Enman Field every day I was there since it was on the way from my campground to the beach. Loved playing there and it was well worth the daily fee.

I was saddened to read that the course has fallen into disrepair recently and not really playable any more. Next time I am in Maine I definitely would not hesitate to pay to play again.
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Old 03-13-2019, 11:34 PM
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I did get a chuckle out of his notion that no one would play those footworn courses.
LOL I didn't even think about that from that angle.


I think this guy just really likes fancy mowing. I can't see how a serious disc golfer would want to build courses with so few trees or other natural obstacles. Disc golf without trees is like basketball without dribbling or something.

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Old 03-14-2019, 12:22 AM
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I can't see how a serious disc golfer would want to build courses with so few trees or other natural obstacles. Disc golf without trees is like basketball without dribbling or something.
Simon Lizotte said he prefers open courses, of course one could argue he doesn't take disc golf serious.
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Old 03-14-2019, 12:22 AM
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I think you nailed the heart of what is fundamentally wrong with this whole proposal - I will argue that disc golf has evolved and thrived the way it did exactly BECAUSE it was a low to no cost alternative to ball golf, and that attempting to transform it into an orders of magnitude higher revenue generating endeavor will fail for this very reason.

Honestly, if this dude wants to attempt to implement the type of disc golf he's selling, he's free to try, it's exceedingly unlikely that any existing course is going to be displaced, replaced, or removed by any attempt at his vision. I might even give it a shot once or twice for the hell of it just because I remain oddly curious about how his "ground holes" would play, but I just hope that any investor who falls for his shtick would find a way to hold him accountable for this:

Premium "CHAMPIONSHIP" Course = about 60 acres
$3,000,000 and up = Development Costs - (Land not included)

$19 - $49 Green Fee + $3 for Retail, Food & Beverage (net)

$22 - $52 = Total per Round Revenue (net)

200 = Days of Playable Weather

50,000 = Annual Rounds

$1,100,000 - $2,600,000 = Annual Revenue

$300,000 - $600,000 = Annual Expenses

$500,000 - $2,000,000 = Annual Profit
250 players a day average?????
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Old 03-14-2019, 03:01 AM
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I have to admit, a ground hole might be fun, for one round. But having no shot at holing out from over 10 feet would utterly kill the vibe. If you thought the occasional 50 footer or 200 footer was random, and was the problem that needed to be removed, this is surely the way.
Not that i mind the concept of cleared underbrush. Poison oak sucks. Still, i hate spraying poison in a place i plan on taking my dog. Round up is not a good solution.
All in all, this fool is misguided, with a snappy presentation. That will ultimaely fail.
/makin popcorn for the show....
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Old 03-14-2019, 07:36 AM
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I'm typing this while sitting in a pro shop at a disc golf course that has operated solely as a disc golf business (and been pretty much my sole source of income) for 15 years. And I'm far from the only game in town. Udisc ranked my city as its #1 destination, and my course didn't warrant mention in their article due to how many high(er) rated courses are nearby. The entire state is booming with for-profit disc golf courses.
What course do you run? I want to make sure and hit it up ASAP.

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