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Old 11-14-2019, 10:10 AM
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Hey all, just recently picked up a disc again since my 12 year old son has been wanting to play. Anyways I typically have thrown a Innova Beast in the Champion plastic, which leads me to my question on which Discraft model I could check out that would be similar to the Champion Beast.

I only have one or two discs left over from back in the day so I'm just looking to stock up on a few different discs and try a something new in the process.

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Old 11-17-2019, 07:57 PM
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So uh, maybe a dumb question, but why not just go back to the champ beast? And why Discraft in particular?
That said, if you go strictly by the flight numbers, then:

Champion Beast: 10/5/-2/2

Discraft's Z line is similar to Innova's champion line, although in my experience, Z usually feels a touch harder and slicker, but maybe that's just the particular models I've held in champion.

Slightly faster than the beast is the Surge SS at 11/5/-2/2
If you want something with a little more high speed turn and less fade at the end, try the Avenger SS 10/5/-3/1
The undertaker is 9/5/-1/2 and I do like that one.
The only beast I ever threw was a very beat-in DX which flew most like an Avenger SS, and probably not at all like your champ beast. I personally did not like the dx beast.

Both the Surge SS and the Undertaker are popular, but the Undertaker is a newer mold.
Hope this helps somewhat.

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Old 11-23-2019, 04:51 PM
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Thanks for the response Blobfish it was helpful. I guess for no reason other than to try something different, I am not familiar with any other disc brands so I just figured I'd bring check out Discraft.
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Old 11-23-2019, 06:40 PM
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If you have a Disc Golf store close by I would suggest a visit. Then you can feel the different discs and plastics yourself.

I'm a bit of a broken record but get your son and yourself a Discraft Comet. It's a great Midrange to relearn/learn with and then pick up a putter. Again, if you can get to a store that will help. Pick a putter that feels good to you two.

There are many good brands and Discs to choose from. It can be overwhelming if you are just starting or getting back into it. But many Pros and people here will tell you to get your form down with putters and Mids. If only I would follow that advice.....

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Old 11-24-2019, 04:35 PM
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How far do you throw? I do think the Beast has changed a bit since you were throwing it, but you may still like it. Wasn't the Beast a little more overstable back then? If so, I'd give a Z Vulture a try. Something like a Surge might also work.

For some reason I've always felt the Champ Beast was a bit glideless compared to Star. Maybe give a 175g Star Beast a try? If that's a bit too flippy, maybe give a Champ Thunderbird a try.

There are tons of molds out there these days, and lots of them are good. Welcome back and good luck!
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Old 11-24-2019, 05:03 PM
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@Simes549 I'm looking at ordering a few Comets right now, for myself and my son. What weight range is best suitable for a average player? Thanks.

@armiller That is a good question, I went out last week and found a Champion Beast at a local hardware store. I believe it weighs 167 or 168. I threw this new disc very well and made it to the basket on a 220 ft hole and also about 10 ft short on a 250 ft hole so I think I can throw comfortably at 220-250.
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Old 11-24-2019, 05:09 PM
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@armiller I also found an unmarked SS Surge a few weeks back that I finally had the chance to use, I used that on the water hazard hole and was able to one putt on a 210 ft hole. I did like the way that disc flew as well.
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I like my Comets heavy, 178 to 180, you might want to start with slightly lighter. For better grip I like the esp glo plastic. Z seems a little slick as does titanium plastic. Those are the plastics I have tried with my comets.
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Get the discraft misprints packs at discraft factory store. For $5-$9 a disc it's a way to try several
I found some new favorites this way
I have 3 sons age 8,10&14 that play
Extra discs I used as bribes to move firewood, mow grass,etc
Now the 14 yo is often beating me
He gets stronger every day, I get older

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@armiller That is a good question, I went out last week and found a Champion Beast at a local hardware store. I believe it weighs 167 or 168. I threw this new disc very well and made it to the basket on a 220 ft hole and also about 10 ft short on a 250 ft hole so I think I can throw comfortably at 220-250.
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@armiller I also found an unmarked SS Surge a few weeks back that I finally had the chance to use, I used that on the water hazard hole and was able to one putt on a 210 ft hole. I did like the way that disc flew as well.
Follow-up question: are you throwing forehand or backhand? That can significantly affect which discs you use and how well you can use them.

Either way, at that distance you probably have a lot to gain by working on form. Something like the Comet (I'd say X or Z) or a Leopard (Pro?) would be best for practicing backhand form.

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