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Old 08-27-2015, 11:34 AM
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At a couple local courses we have grass that is laying over sidewalk. The sidewalk is Ob. The grass is about a disc and a half length over the sidewalk. There is a lot of grass that does this. If you pick the grass up, there is a clear line where the concrete starts.

If the disc is laying on the hangover grass, but entirely above concrete, is it Ob?
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Old 08-27-2015, 11:50 AM
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At a couple local courses we have grass that is laying over sidewalk. The sidewalk is Ob. The grass is about a disc and a half length over the sidewalk. There is a lot of grass that does this. If you pick the grass up, there is a clear line where the concrete starts.

If the disc is laying on the hangover grass, but entirely above concrete, is it Ob?
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Old 08-27-2015, 11:52 AM
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That was succinct.
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Old 08-27-2015, 11:56 AM
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Pretty sure the short answer is 'Yep!'

The OB line is infinitesimally thin, and runs along the concrete boundary. If none of the disc is touching that line ('in bounds'), then it's OB.

I think the confusion is that folks have conflated the 'surrounded by water' rule with a hypothetical 'touching grass' rule (sometimes rocks bordering water create a peninsula to where a disc might lie...and another reason why folks spray paint or rope an OB line for clarity...)

(edit: I KNEW this was taking me too long to type!)
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Old 08-27-2015, 01:55 PM
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Remember "Things" or "Objects" are not out-of-bounds or they're not what defines the out-of-bounds. Out-of-bounds is an area, aka, the "out-of-bounds area" and we use the term "OB" for short. When you hear someone say, at the players' meeting for example, or even on the sign for the hole, "the sidewalk is OB," they are using a shortened version of "the area defined by the edges of the the sidewalk on both sides and everything in between is out-of-bounds."

FYI, that's why I do not like (from a TD perspective) saying, "the creek" is OB unless that creek is clearly defined all the way along the hole. When there is a body of water without a clear line, that's too unclear for me. I'll either draw a line or use some other definition if I am able to on that course.

So YES, that shot would be fully surrounded by the out-of-bounds area, therefore it is out-of-bounds.
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Dont have a problem with too much...have a problem with poorly marked, and designed ob. If you have so much OB that you cannot mark it properly or have disappearing OB lines... then you have too much. If a percentage of the field simply can not execute a shot, you have too much.
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Dont have a problem with too much...have a problem with poorly marked, and designed ob. If you have so much OB that you cannot mark it properly or have disappearing OB lines... then you have too much. If a percentage of the field simply can not execute a shot, you have too much.
Another thread???
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Old 08-27-2015, 03:04 PM
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Another thread???
Yes, not sure how I did that. Disregard my ramblings..

For this thread: Disc = OB

Also, just get out with an edger and take care of the problem. Then no more arguments about it in rounds, leagues, or events. They make non powered ones that work great. I use one in my yard instead of the 2-3 power ones that I have. It would take less time than reading and responding to all the comments in this thread.

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Also, just get out with an edger and take care of the problem. Then no more arguments about it in rounds, leagues, or events. They make non powered ones that work great. I use one in my yard instead of the 2-3 power ones that I have. It would take less time than reading and responding to all the comments in this thread.

TYPE FASTER!!!! Problem solved.
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