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Old 06-10-2019, 06:31 PM
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The weather conditions are what changes the flight. Not because the discs are softer. Discs glide farther and are less flippy in the heat. Cold weather makes everything more understable
I've had the opposite results. I feel like discs fly way more understable in the heat, and glide great.

When I throw in the cold, everything seems ultra beefy and glideless. I bet some of this can be attributed to being stiff and not getting the best grip on the disc.

All my best distance comes during the summer.
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Old 06-10-2019, 09:03 PM
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Air density vs. temperature is well established science, the warmer the air, the less dense the air, easier to fly through, but it is incomplete science to say that wholly accounts for the deltas.

Warmer air will have an impact on the disc material, and I still stick with my theory about it loosening up the Kong, it is like a quick temporary seasoning of the disc, as contrasted to Sydex's reference to the normal course of seasoning the disc material over time.

Imagine throwing a disc made of titanium (not Discraft Titanium !), no discernible flex at all, so too hard to impart forward thrust and rotation, so it will not go far, we need softer materials that support the forward thrust with rotation. Without sustained rotation, things do not fly as far (absent some power source), that is why baseballs have seams, golf balls have dimples, footballs have laces, basketballs have grooves, volleyballs, etc.

I do agree with Silver Rider, Kong is a good control disc (as I have posted before on these threads), but not ideal for most players, you need to have good arm speed/timing/angle of release control to get the benefits. As I have been throwing it alongside the Boss and Destroyer, the Kong is shorter, but more often best centered in the fairway. But that is in reference to the more stable Kongs, the flippier ones can get squirrelly, especially in windier conditions.
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:06 PM
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Took out a 173g Kong today and threw it alongside a 168 4x Destroyer. Kong is brand new and 4x is probably 7/10.

Kong was getting a full flight when thrown flat and travelled roughly 400’ (377’ - 416’ UDisc measurement ranges). 4x was closer to the 380’ range (373’ - 392’ UDisc range) with zero turn.. Threw each on seven of the long holes my local course has.

Kong was easier to throw but wind did make it look scary.

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Old 06-12-2019, 11:39 AM
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Took out a 173g Kong today and threw it alongside a 168 4x Destroyer. Kong is brand new and 4x is probably 7/10.

Kong was getting a full flight when thrown flat and travelled roughly 400’ (377’ - 416’ UDisc measurement ranges). 4x was closer to the 380’ range (373’ - 392’ UDisc range) with zero turn.. Threw each on seven of the long holes my local course has.

Kong was easier to throw but wind did make it look scary.
i take it your Kong is flatter on top?
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Old 06-12-2019, 01:47 PM
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i take it your Kong is flatter on top?
Yes, it’s what I’d consider a flat top Kong. The 4x was pretty average in dome and has the x-wing.
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Old 06-25-2019, 11:09 AM
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Not that it matters much, but the Kong, is now Zeus

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Old 06-25-2019, 11:17 AM
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Just a quick anecdote: I was watching the FPO coverage of the Ledgestone tournament, and some of the Discraft-sponsored ladies were throwing Kongs. Kind of reminded me of Innova-sponsored ladies throwing Shrykes and Trilogy-sponsored ladies throwing Ballista Pros and Sheriffs and such...
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Old 06-25-2019, 11:21 AM
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Not that it matters much, but the Kong, is now Zeus
Fits in much better with the other model names he has put forth.
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Old 06-25-2019, 11:40 AM
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Was it not PDGA approved as the "KONG" can they change the name just like that?
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Was it not PDGA approved as the "KONG" can they change the name just like that?
Yeah, its the same mold, nothing has changed physically, it just needs to be updated with the new name in the system
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