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Old 08-15-2019, 12:10 PM
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Why is the word "lifestyle" so contentious? Especially when the context that it was brought about, was expressing acceptance.

I am trying to have a civil conversation but its next to impossible to keep up with what terms are forbidden. I am immediately met w/ backlash, calling me ignorant and that I am showing hatred (antipathy) for acknowledging and accepting that a transperson's "lifestyle" (oops, there I go again being hostile) is different than my own.
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Old 08-15-2019, 12:12 PM
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Again, not according to the author here:

https://quillette.com/2019/08/10/the...f-gay-culture/

You can agree or disagree with the author, and article. But he is clearly defining a lifestyle which is (or maybe was) different than a straight one (in his words).
He also said not everyone who was gay was into that lifestyle, and that many straight people were, so I'm kind of at a loss as to why when it comes to gay you have to assign them all in the same category instead of recognizing them as individuals.

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Old 08-15-2019, 12:15 PM
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Define lifestyle then, because I'm failing to see how publicly declaring a sexual preference or changing gender automatically means your lifestyle is now changed.
More of a question than myself stating a fact, but I would be surprised to learn that the above 2 scenarios I mentioned did not come with lifestyle changes. Wouldn't social circles have new or different opportunities? And if so, wouldn't that reflect a lifestyle change?
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Old 08-15-2019, 12:23 PM
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More of a question than myself stating a fact, but I would be surprised to learn that the above 2 scenarios I mentioned did not come with lifestyle changes. Wouldn't social circles have new or different opportunities? And if so, wouldn't that reflect a lifestyle change?
I mean, maybe?

I'm just failing to see what a gay lifestyle or a transgender lifestyle is, and how coming out or transitioning automatically means you suddenly have a completely different lifestyle.

The core of the person did not change. They're still the same person.

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Old 08-15-2019, 12:29 PM
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I mean, maybe?

I'm just failing to see what a gay lifestyle or a transgender lifestyle is, and how coming out or transitioning automatically means you suddenly have a completely different lifestyle.

The core of the person did not change. They're still the same person.
I have a friend who transitioned. She's now married and regularly attends church. Is that the transgender lifestyle people keep talking about?

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Old 08-15-2019, 12:32 PM
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I mean, maybe?

I'm just failing to see what a gay lifestyle or a transgender lifestyle is, and how coming out or transitioning automatically means you suddenly have a completely different lifestyle.

The core of the person did not change. They're still the same person.
Trying not to sound demeaning here, but I mean....once a man, now a woman. Isn't that just about the strongest example of a lifestyle change there could be?

I 100% agree the core person is the same, but were they (for whatever reason) free to express that core person before making the change?
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Old 08-15-2019, 12:55 PM
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Trying not to sound demeaning here, but I mean....once a man, now a woman. Isn't that just about the strongest example of a lifestyle change there could be?

I 100% agree the core person is the same, but were they (for whatever reason) free to express that core person before making the change?
Every single individual has their own lifestyle.
In this case, they had a lifestyle as a male.
Now they'll have a lifestyle as a female.

Neither of those is a "transgender" lifestyle, which is the point being argued.

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Old 08-15-2019, 01:06 PM
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Every single individual has their own lifestyle.
In this case, they had a lifestyle as a male.
Now they'll have a lifestyle as a female.

Neither of those is a "transgender" lifestyle, which is the point being argued.
Point taken, thx. I guess lifestyle can be interpreted a zillion ways, I would assume (possibly wrongly) that the simple act of taking drugs to increase/decrease testosterone/estrogen would indeed be part of a lifestyle needed to be a transgender.
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Old 08-15-2019, 01:08 PM
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Point taken, thx. I guess lifestyle can be interpreted a zillion ways, I would assume (possibly wrongly) that the simple act of taking drugs to increase/decrease testosterone/estrogen would indeed be part of a lifestyle needed to be a transgender.
By that logic my mom has a thyroid lifestyle.

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Old 08-15-2019, 01:11 PM
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By that logic my mom has a thyroid lifestyle.
Hyperthyroidism vs. hypothyroidism can certainly cause lifestyle changes.
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