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Old 08-05-2018, 12:37 PM
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Has anyone ever ran into this? If so what did you do about it, did you get paid?

I recently vended a large tournament for a local TD that is refusing to pay me for my services. Won't answer phone calls or text messages. I sent an invoice for vending with no response. Pretty ****ty right? So I contacted the pdga thinking they would handle the situation, right? I mean what do we pay them for? To my surprise they won't or can't do anything they say. They only are responsible for TD reports and player payouts. They won't even remove his TD status. I find this pretty shady and would like others opinions and help for my situation.
Let me know what you think.
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Old 08-05-2018, 12:44 PM
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I'm naive about this and why I ask....what do they pay you for? Are you selling their discs?
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Old 08-05-2018, 12:45 PM
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Do you have a contract? How is it that you're being paid as a vendor? I thought most vendors paid for the right to shill their wares, not the other way around.
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Old 08-05-2018, 12:47 PM
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Shady as **** but what exactly do you expect the PDGA to do about it? They're not small claims court. There are no PDGA rules requiring TDs to pay their vendors (common decency and the law should cover that). Not sure what they could even do...suspending the TD doesn't get you any restitution.

You want to get outside authorities involved, your best bet is probably small claims court. Sue the guy and get the courts to compel him to pay up.

Or, put him on blast and out the guy publicly. Maybe if locals know the guy is stiffing you, they can help lean on him until he makes it right. Or stop supporting his events.

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Old 08-05-2018, 12:49 PM
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I'm assuming by "vending" he means supplying the prizes or player packs for the ams? If the ams cashed in their payouts with this guy and he never got paid for that merch, the TD is a dink.

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Old 08-05-2018, 12:50 PM
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^JC with the snipage...

He probably agreed to do the payout merch. Then the TD stiffed him on the registration fees that are used to cover that.
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Old 08-05-2018, 01:15 PM
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Yes, I agreed to do the payout merch for the am payouts. Which I have not been paid for from the td.

Unfortunately I do not have a contract. I have been doing this for years now without ever having to have one and never been a problem. Definitely going to have to have one from now on! Which is sad to think. It blows my mind someone would even consider doing this.

Does anyone else think this should be something the pdga should consider changing and adding to their rules to protect vendors? Its not right that the pdga wont even take away his td rights. Basically their allowing a criminal to continue to be a criminal?

Has anyone one gone through small claims court? Have any insight for me?

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Old 08-05-2018, 01:23 PM
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Does anyone else think this should be something the pdga should consider changing and adding to their rules to protect vendors?
I've always thought that the PDGA should remove the players pack requirement. It always bothered me that I (as an 'am') had to basically purchase items that I didn't want or need in order to participate in a PDGA event.

That said, did you have any kind of conversation with this TD before the tournament? Did this TD think you were 'gifting' all that gear?

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The PDGA is a player organization. Unless the players at the tournament got shorted, their jurisdiction is nil. Their rules don't cover vendors nor should they. Vendors aren't necessary to run a tournament.

You want to do damage to the TD, name him publicly.

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Old 08-05-2018, 01:32 PM
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I'm assuming by "vending" he means supplying the prizes or player packs for the ams? If the ams cashed in their payouts with this guy and he never got paid for that merch, the TD is a dink.
Sucks for sure. Without a signed contract you are probably SOL when it comes to Small Claims Court.
You may just have to chock this up as a learning experience and your losses as the cost of tuition.
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