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Old 07-19-2017, 09:22 PM
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The Unlace is the longest mold I have, and great for long, BH turnover shots... but somewhat unforgiving in terms of needing clean form and lots of wrist.
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Old 07-20-2017, 10:02 AM
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Lots of love here for Vibram's high-quality products!

QUESTION TO THOSE MOST WHO ARE HIGHLY EXPERIENCED WITH VIBRAM'S PRODUCT LINE:

If you had to pick one Vibram disc that solidly outperforms all other discs on the market in the role for which they were designed (e.g. understable high-speed driver), which one would it be, and why?

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!

IMO, the unLace. Superb understable distance driver.
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Old 09-23-2017, 05:46 PM
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I'm sure this is somewhere in the 409 pages, but what's the deal on pre-pdga putters? I have a pre-pdga ridge and really like the feel of it. Is it cool to use it? Is it technically an 'illegal' disc?
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Old 09-24-2017, 06:54 PM
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it is fine to use. it just means that is the early rubber mold. sought after in some circles.

it has been pdga approved since it's pressing.
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Old 11-28-2017, 12:25 PM
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infinite discs has a huge shipment of Vibrams in stock, including a run of OOP Ascents & Traks apparently.
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Old 12-04-2017, 07:43 PM
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The Unlace is the longest mold I have, and great for long, BH turnover shots... but somewhat unforgiving in terms of needing clean form and lots of wrist.
Agree - it is an oddball disc in that it is a high-speed form factor that doesn't like high speed. Of all the Vibram MPH markings on the back, only the Summit is lower last time I checked, 43 mph or so.

If you hit it just right at about 60% on a hyzer release, it just flies forever.
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Old 12-07-2017, 05:04 PM
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So I picked up some Vibrams to make a small bag to mess around in the (rainy) off season. I've played exactly 2 rounds now with them and here are my opinions for whatever they're worth.

Making the Vibram bag:
Medium Ridge (173g) - I used to have a firm Ridge a long time ago. I always loved this disc for driving and putting back then, and I still love this disc for driving and putting now. One of the more underrated putters out there imo.
Medium Obex (177g) - Man, I used to have one of these and all I remember thinking was that it was super overstable and glideless. Throwing this now, I think this is one of the best Rancho Roc clones I've ever thrown. Nice glide, great high speed stability, gentle forward fade. I'd rate it 4 5 0 2. Great disc.
Medium Crag (176g) - Flies a lot like a Pig or Gator. It's a little deep for forehands and the weirdly shaped rim isn't the most comfortable, but it's nicely overstable and should be useful occasionally. I'd rate it a 3.5 2 0 3
Medium Launch (177g) - Flies like a worked in Roc. I wish it were just a little less stable to create more separation between it and the Obex, but the slight turn and lack of fade mean that it has a place. 4 5 -1 0.5
Medium Ascent and Medium Notch (both close to 175) - These fly very similarly, like an overstable Teebird with just a little less glide. I'll probably only bag one of them but I can't decide which. Probably the Notch since the Ascent is OOP (even though you can still buy the final run ones). 7 4 0 2.5

Not making the Vibram bag:
Firm Ibex (177g): I had high hopes for this flying somewhat like a Buzzz. In my past experience, new buzzzes often tend to have just a small flip up and then a very straight flight with lots of glide and a mellow fade. This disc does not do that. It is easily as beefy or moreso than the Obex with less glide. I adjusted to the high speed stability and threw it side by side with the Obex on several holes and it just doesn't glide well. They flew similar lines but the Obex outdistanced it significantly every single time. I'd call it a 4 3 0 2. Given other peoples' praise of this mold, I'd guess mine is just a turd and not representative of all Ibexes.

Still to try:
175g Medium Lace and 168g Medium OLace: Both of these look really nice. I had a firm lace in the past that flew amazingly for about half a dozen throws and then got flippy as crap. The PLH on this one looks higher than my memories of that disc, and in my past experience medium beats in a little slower so I'm hopeful. The OLace looks and feels just like the Lace but with ever so slightly higher PLH. Both have a smooth dome with just a little pop to them.

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Old 12-08-2017, 06:53 PM
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I reckon your Ibex is a lemon. I fell in love with the Ibex because it flew like a longer, seasoned Shark for me out of the box. Now, I have a medium and soft--no firm--so that may make a difference, in some degree.

The first Valley I had was a lemon, flying way overstable for me. It was only after I threw my son's Valley that I figured it out, and then the Valley became a favorite. (The X-Link medium gets a bit squishy in summer heat and, as I don't care for the feel of the Firm, quit carrying the Vibram fairways because of it.) So Vibram lemons can be way off the mark.

Most of my bag now is MVP. I still carry the Ibex in soft and medium because it's such a sweet mold. I carried Sharks from the time they came out on the market until I found the Ibex.

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Pulled out the Vibram bag today because it was cold and wet here in DFW. Love the grip, etc. etc. etc... that's why I have a Vibram bag. Playing a couple of rounds at Turner today, I couldn't help but notice how much better the Ascent is than their newer fairway driver for the "same" purpose... the Arch. I have all of their molds and I can't express my disappointment on the discontinued status of the Ascent. Oh well, this is a "utility" bag for me, so I need to get over it.
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Old 01-01-2018, 03:38 PM
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Pulled out the Vibram bag today because it was cold and wet here in DFW. Love the grip, etc. etc. etc... that's why I have a Vibram bag. Playing a couple of rounds at Turner today, I couldn't help but notice how much better the Ascent is than their newer fairway driver for the "same" purpose... the Arch. I have all of their molds and I can't express my disappointment on the discontinued status of the Ascent. Oh well, this is a "utility" bag for me, so I need to get over it.
Weird. I found the exact opposite to be true. The newer fairways are much more.....consistent? I could never find a trak or ascent that would work the way that it was sold. But the valley, arch, and notch all seem to be right about where Vibram says they are. At least for me, though the half & half V.O. versions were pretty nice!
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