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Old 03-26-2019, 10:08 AM
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I have a Jawbreaker Zone. It comes in and out of my bag...mostly out.
I can forehand an Envy cleaner and had rather backhand my Ti Drone.
I like the JW Zone, but there is too much overlap in my bag.

I am hoping the Entropy has an Envy hand feel with Zone stability. That may be too much to ask though.
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Old 03-26-2019, 10:10 AM
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The brothers are weird. I hadn't really noticed the putter class numbers before. They have the Ion class as 11mm, the Envy/Atom as 10 and the Entropy at 10.5. But they have the Ion class as 2.5 speed, Envy at 3 and Entropy at 4...WTF? lol

Also, the Entropy is listed at 21.2 diameter which puts the max weight at 176 for those who like the heaviest putter possible...
i think the profile of the disc makes a difference with speed also, more drag makes an object "slower" is their thinking im sure.. its interesting though considering the way they organize them based on rim mm, id rather them just sort by their speed rating if the rim isnt the only indicator..
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Old 03-26-2019, 10:14 AM
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Im really excited for the Entropy.. i have a beefy proton Envy but would totally replace that with a slightly faster approach disc if its like a zone. number ratings are identical to a zone...

"Be prepared for the chaos found on the course with the new Entropy from MVP. The Entropy is an overstable Putt and Approach disc designed for flights with a minimal glide and a strong finishing fade. The Entropy delivers as the overstable workhorse putter GYRO fans have been waiting for. Making its debut in Neutron Plastic and the new 10.5mm MVP Putter Class, the Entropy has the premium grip and durability to become your go-to approach or high wind putter. After an extensive development process, the Entropy has arrived and is ready to be disc golfs next premier overstable putter."

Now the flare needs to be a firebird clone

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Old 03-26-2019, 10:32 AM
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Now the flare needs to be a firebird clone
Just curious, how close is the resistor to a firebird? I've never thrown firebird - I've wondered if fb wants to fade out of hand quicker whereas resistor will hold straight longer before fading hard? Or are they fairly similar?

I'm finding resistor really useful both bh and fh. I think I'm sometimes leaning on it too much at times but I'll find the proper balance
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Old 03-26-2019, 10:49 AM
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Just curious, how close is the resistor to a firebird? I've never thrown firebird - I've wondered if fb wants to fade out of hand quicker whereas resistor will hold straight longer before fading hard? Or are they fairly similar?

I'm finding resistor really useful both bh and fh. I think I'm sometimes leaning on it too much at times but I'll find the proper balance
You're correct, the FB is faster and has more of an OS mid-flight where the Resistor can hold straight for a good bit before biting hard at the end of flight.

-I'll call Resistor 6/4/ 0/0/3 (where the first # is high speed stability, the middle is cruising stability, and the last is the Low Speed Fade)
and the Firebird 9/4/ 0/+1/4

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Old 03-26-2019, 11:00 AM
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FWIW my Resistor is pretty close to my (FL) candy pro FB. They are both more utility workable at lower speed then an actual Firebird. I think of it as Firebird Light...
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Old 03-26-2019, 11:23 AM
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Just curious, how close is the resistor to a firebird? I've never thrown firebird - I've wondered if fb wants to fade out of hand quicker whereas resistor will hold straight longer before fading hard? Or are they fairly similar?

I'm finding resistor really useful both bh and fh. I think I'm sometimes leaning on it too much at times but I'll find the proper balance
resistor is much slower, shorter.. the fireball from axiom is as close as ive found at the moment. But the Flare from streamline will probably be very close to a firebird is my guess.

resistor will hold straight longer but have a very reliable fade you can release on slight hyzer or even throw higher to manipulate an earlier fade, etc.. also holds up to any wind, which is why i like it. When they beat in they are laser beams and develop very slow turn (i call it drift, because its not flippy) but still have a late dump which keeps it reliable.. probably my favorite disc of all time in all stages of wear they are useful.. a Servo is a good disc to pair thats straighter out of the box untill you get a beat resistor.

Resistor is my go to majority of the time, i lean on it the most by far.. especially the local courses where the average hole is narrow wooded fairways and generally under 300'.

The beat resistor fits the old school shorter courses well and a lot of times i use it where a longer midrange shot would work just as well.

The resistor is also great for thumbers, tomohawks, etc.. just about anything its reliable for im not surprised you are leaning on it so much.

However, on longer courses averaging mostly over 300+ the fireball/wrath is the go to combo and then up to and over 400' i used to go with the photon but this year switching to octane for more wind resistance and more reliable fade on the longer throws, photon is long for a speed 11 but just cant quite push it as far as a speed 13 octane which can hit 475' consistently with.. recommend a high plh eclipse octane for more OS variant as opposed to going to a more OS mold with lower glide in the speed 13 slot, imo.

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thats great, so its the same numebrs as my fireball only a touch .5 more glide, sounds good. i will try one when they go retail

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Im really excited for the Entropy.. i have a beefy proton Envy but would totally replace that with a slightly faster approach disc if its like a zone. number ratings are identical to a zone...
Me too. I've been itching for a Zone again and this could possibly replace my N Envy and Runway, while giving me the excuse to throw my Ion more.

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