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Old 02-15-2013, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by -- Villain -- View Post
I honestly notice no difference aside from the way the disc feels betweeny river and my 11x teebird
the river is nose angle sensitive, way more glidely a lot less HSS and even more less LSS. It is nothing like a teebird let alone the more overstable 11x variety
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Old 02-15-2013, 09:13 AM
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i agree most rivers are no where close to a teebird of any variety expecially stable 11x. But i had a pink gold line river a couple years ago that was way more stable than any teebird i have thrown. I forgot how stable it was and its sitting in a pond in MN because of the super fade. I think super stable rivers are all but gone now and i would not know how to begin to look for one like the pig i had.
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Old 02-15-2013, 09:19 AM
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There are some Rivers out there that might do, but most are appropriately understable. Totem TBs are overstable, but they could, in theory, be flattened and abused into flying straighter. The plastic is nice on those.

Someone in the FD thread said the flatter C-FDs are 11x Cal TB-esque. I just got a couple hoping they would have good HSS but be less overstable than most of my TB's. I've never thrown an 11x, nor have I had a chance to throw these C-FDs, so a great lot of help I am!
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Old 02-15-2013, 10:41 AM
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My flat pinnacle rival actually holds up better in wind and is more stable than my 11x TB. Of course the bird has been beat in and passed around for years. It gets more glide and distance too. I'm not sure why but the Rival is a little blunter on the rim and doesn't fly as far for me. Great fairway though.
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Old 02-15-2013, 11:08 AM
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My vote is for a flat totem Teebird (or a stock TB just like it, though I've not seen these on the shelves yet).

My two blue totems are as flat as an 11x--I've compared one side by side with a friend's 11x so I know the domes are pretty much the same. It's more overstable than my Star TBs, but it flies just as straight and will fade a few feet (like 10-15) earlier.

They are great discs if you can get a hold of one. I'm sure Innova will be molding up some stock stamp TBs in this plastic if they haven't already. It's the same plastic, though maybe a little stiffer, as the production Terns and Roc3s.
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Teebirds like 11x are still out there. I got a bunch of the flat glow from disc golf values and they fly similar. I also picked up a stack of 5 flatter x-out teebirds from PIAS so I am set for awhile. It took me a years of searching to find them though.
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Old 02-15-2013, 12:34 PM
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concur with the Legacy Pinnacle Rival recommendation. You won't notice much difference in flight.
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:07 PM
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get a CFR glow eagle any year 2011-2013 disc golf values, done.
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yeah i was going to say what weight because max weight is mini firebird. i always like a 168 one and it wore in nicely. wish i never sold that one.

sorry i'm no help a stalker is actually a nice slower disc to take its place...less of a lazer shot but still works nice if you don't need the distance of teebird

i'm going to say just get a starfire...old pearlys are just as nice and 1/4 the price....but par with stalker or something slower.

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