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Default was the teebird approved as the "thunderbird"

on the PDGA list, there is a teebird-L that is approved and a thunderbird but no Teebird.
just a curiosity?http://www.pdga.com/files/documents/...scs_032913.pdf
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Jeff, you of all people . . .


For the lulz! Period. (approved in 99? nope)
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Yes. The "Thunderbird" on the list is the sainted TeeBird.
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actually the teebird was approved in 1999
this isn't an april fools joke

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Yes. The "Thunderbird" on the list is the sainted TeeBird.
thats what I thought! thanks TP!
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actually the teebird was approved in 1999
this isn't an april fools joke



thats what I thought! thanks TP!
That spring of '99 if you look at the dates went Eagle/TeeBird/Leopard. They all came out between March and May of '99. The XL and X2 had come out the year before and really pushed Discraft into the lead in drivers. Innova responded.
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That spring of '99 if you look at the dates went Eagle/TeeBird/Leopard. They all came out between March and May of '99. The XL and X2 had come out the year before and really pushed Discraft into the lead in drivers. Innova responded.
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From the PDGA boards (second speaker is Dave D):

EDIT: March 06' for the lazy

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Dave, was the Innova Thunderbird ever actually made? If so, what did it fly like?

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As Tafe says, it was the longer name of the TeeBird.

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SOOO...3P proved me wrong, but at the same time, he didn't.




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Innova-Champion Discs Thunderbird 176.0 21.2 1.5 1.1 17.8 1.7 5.2 29.25 7.83 99-06 05/03/99
Innova-Champion Discs CE TeeBird 176.0 21.2 1.5 1.1 17.8 1.7 5.2 29.25 8.28 01-15 06/02/01
Innova-Champion Discs Teebird L (TL) 175.1 21.1 1.6 1.2 17.5 1.8 5.7 33.00 12.25 07-17 03/08/07

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That spring of '99 if you look at the dates went Eagle/TeeBird/Leopard. They all came out between March and May of '99. The XL and X2 had come out the year before and really pushed Discraft into the lead in drivers. Innova responded.
wow! and i thought this was a good spring! three amazing and timeless molds right there
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SOOO...3P proved me wrong, but at the same time, he didn't.




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Innova-Champion Discs Thunderbird 176.0 21.2 1.5 1.1 17.8 1.7 5.2 29.25 7.83 99-06 05/03/99
Innova-Champion Discs CE TeeBird 176.0 21.2 1.5 1.1 17.8 1.7 5.2 29.25 8.28 01-15 06/02/01
Innova-Champion Discs Teebird L (TL) 175.1 21.1 1.6 1.2 17.5 1.8 5.7 33.00 12.25 07-17 03/08/07
The TeeBird was approved in '99 as the "Thunderbird." They changed their plans for than name after it was approved and the PDGA didn't make them resubmit the new name.

In '01 a bunch of already approved molds popped up as "CE" approved; the rumor was that they were flex test challenged and passed. It was odd since you don't have to have plastics approved, but whatever. By then they had been selling the "Thunderbird" as the TeeBird for two years so they used the name "TeeBird."

In '07, Innova thought they had to phase out Pro plastic. The "L" molds for the TeeBird, Starfire and Firebird were only sold in Pro at that point, and Innova wanted to keep selling them in the new Star plastic. To do that they needed to actually be able to use the names "TL" "SL" and "FL" because there was already a Star TeeBird, Star Starfire and Star Firebird using the X mold. The PDGA ruled that this was a name change and the discs had to be submitted for approval. So the TeeBird L (TL) was approved in '07. Entertainingly, the CE TeeBird that was approved in '01 was probably a TL, but it was less about what was legal and more about semantics at that point.
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