Lakeshore, CA

China Peak DGC

Seasonal course
4.55(based on 8 reviews)

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Tip #1
Tip by:Whirlwind Disc Golf Added on: Hole:#14
Measures 276, plays ~364 due to 28-foot incline.

A slight left to right through a relatively large window out of the forest. Second half of flight is wide open.

Most well-thrown shots underestimate the distance, leaving themselves 30-40 feet short.

Lhbh bombers also have a high hyzer option further left.
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Tip #2
Tip by:Whirlwind Disc Golf Added on: Updated on: Hole:#13
Measures 405, plays ~283 due to 48-foot decline. (Weird: it doesn't seem that steep, but it's true that it seems play a little under 300.)

One of several holes where a precise, medium distance left-to-right -- typically low and flat, fading 20-30 feet late -- has a relatively good deuce opportunity (see also 9 ,14, 16, 20, 22, 25). If your game is strictly right-handed backhand and you, like most mere mortals, find it difficult to throw a late-turning disc accurately at 8000 feet -- just throw it straight and try to leave a pin-high 35-footer.

There's a radical rhbh hyzer bomb too, but the entry to the green would be pure luck. Stick with the slight right-to-left.
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Tip #3
Tip by:Whirlwind Disc Golf Added on: Updated on: Hole:#12
Measures 312, plays ~275 due to slight decline. (hmm, scorecard says 25-foot decline and effective distance of 242 feet. i'm guessing the designer provided bad data.)

Straightforward straight shot between the goalposts immediately off the tee and between the boulders near the green.

A fun option, if not the percentage play: A slightly elevated left-to-right over the boulder. To get inside 25 feet, you've gotta get lucky or hit a small window at the edge of the green.
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Tip #4
Tip by:Whirlwind Disc Golf Added on: Updated on: Hole:#11
Measures 1050, plays 419* due to 286-foot decline. Fairway measures about 275-feet wide for the first ~500 feet down the ski run. After that, the forest on the right side starts angling away, making the fairway ~450-feet wide by pin-high.

Despite the huge fairway, the drive is extremely technical. Good players miss the fairway 70-80% of the time.

Yes, the repeated refrain applies:
1. Throw low and flat.
2. Select a disc more understable than you think.
3. Better to throw your favorite fairway driver or even mid-range into the fairway than to get greedy with a distance driver.

Here's a useful little story of two consecutive throws on a typical day with a typical light headwind.
Player A (rated ~1000, throws ~500 feet accurately on normal holes): Rips a max-weight mid-range about 90% effort on a perfect angle. But he throws it straight out at tree level, not downhill or nose down at all. After about 18 glorious, tantalizing seconds, where the disc slowly drifts from the left side of the fairway over to the right, and then slowly fades back -- the disc lands softly near the left edge of the fairway. About 300 feet short.
Player B (~950-rated, strong but somewhat erratic, not accustomed to easily overpowering holes): Throws a broken-in mid-weight fairway driver about 65% effort, nose down and flat as heck toward the left side of the fairway. Out of his hand, it looks too low. As it flies, you swear it's going to hit the ground any moment. In fact, it's so flat, that it's hard to see. But it keeps on cruising. At about 6 seconds, it flies right over the previous golfer's drive. At about 9 seconds, it slides to a stop. About 100 feet short, right on line.

To spell out the moral of the story: Player A, a great thrower, executed his shot perfectly. It had zero margin of error. And didn't land anywhere near the hole. Player B, a good thrower, executed his shot well. It had the most margin of error possible on this hole. Had he missed his line or angle a little, he'd still have a good chance at a 3. Had he put 5% more zip into it, he would parked the first deuce ever.

Oh, wait, what about Lefties? Right-handed sidearmers? Well, the technicality and margin of error are even more challenging for them. And the standard refrain applies: low, flat, less stable, don't go high-speed. (Left-handed LS, who only musters ~350 on the flats, threw his lightweight fairway driver pin-high last year, about 80 feet right. It's true, I saw it.)

Also worth noting: RH, a well-known rhbh weenie-arm, claims to have overshot the hole by ~150 feet with a fairway driver. (I didn't see this one, hehe.)

*We calculated the effective distance shown on the scorecards by multiplying the elevation change by 3 and adding/subtracting from the measured distance. It's a convention that seems to work pretty well in most cases. On this hole, however, the standard adjustment falls short. The hole actually plays about 325.
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Tip #5
Tip by:Whirlwind Disc Golf Added on: Hole:#10
Measures 282, plays ~396 (perhaps longer) due to 38-foot incline. One of the shortest holes on the course (#21-273, #14-276), but plays much longer than several of the 400+ downhill holes.

Off the tee, fly a fast, flat disc through one of the gaps around the tree immediately in front of you. If you like slight left-to-right flights, go left. If you like right-to-left, go right.

Either way, make sure it lands right of the basket, whether pin-high or way short. If you go straight and leave it 50-100 feet short, you'll probably bogey trying to get through the wall of small trees. Or just get lucky, like many rhbh throwers, and accidentally go way left -- it's not wide open over there, but it's much easier than missing straight.

It's a par hole for 95% of players; lefties, in particular, are unlikely to drive anywhere near the green. Rhbh power throwers might crush to pin-high for a fast 40-footer.
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Tip #6
Tip by:Whirlwind Disc Golf Added on: Updated on: Hole:#9
Measures 309, plays ~350 due to 11-foot incline.

This classic balanced hole has 3 distinct, equally effective routes.

The slight left-to-right line is shortest and not terribly tight.

Going further outside is the cleanest flight path -- only one gap to hit, about 25 feet wide. It's ideal for lhbh throws or right-handed sidearmers who can throw uphill with power.

To the right, bigger rhbh arms can exploit the pure hyzer bomb. The deuce is there for the picking, if you can throw a high hyzer with velocity equivalent to 400-425 on a flat line.

Note: As of June 2014, the sandy tees make these power shots, particularly at high angles, a bit more challenging. The big routes will get easier if/when all holes get the nice rubber mats.
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Tip #7
Tip by:Whirlwind Disc Golf Added on: Updated on: Hole:#8
Measures 873, plays ~575 due to 119-foot decline -- mostly on the drive.

This long, straight fairway looks, well, straightforward. The edges of the fairway don't look especially dense or troubling. Until you play it. It's easy to end up way left, deep in jail.

Don't. Go. Left.

It's all about the drive. A familiar refrain:
1. Throw low and flat.
2. If you're throwing rhbh, select a disc more understable than you think.
3. Better to throw your favorite fairway driver or even mid-range into the fairway than to get greedy with a distance driver.

If you're gonna miss, way better to miss right. Missing the fairway to the right still presents challenges -- large, well-spaced trees, creative routes -- but it's far less punitive (and time-consuming) than missing left.

Straight down the middle is best, of course. The large fallen tree crossing the fairway is about 525 feet off the tee, requiring only about 325-feet worth of power to carry it -- on a straight, low line, right?

If you manage the find the middle of the fairway beyond the fallen tree -- whether on your first shot or likely more -- you'll have a basic, flat rhbh hyzer into the green.

Two notes: 1. Reaching this hole in two throws does not require unusual powers, but it's probably more rare than reaching #11 in one throw. 2. If your group spends less than 10 minutes looking for drives on this hole, consider yourself lucky.
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Tip #8
Tip by:Whirlwind Disc Golf Added on: Updated on: Hole:#7
Measures 381, plays ~442 due to 13-foot net incline from elevated tee to upslope green.

Several routes here. Most rhbh or righty sidearm throwers will go down the middle with a fast, flat-stable disc. Smooth lhbh route is cleanest and smartest; it reduces the risk of an errant drive fading left down the valley. Stubborn hyzer-or-die throwers have a narrow option to the right.

The green is challenging, closely encircled by small trees and a large boulder. If you're short-left, the young pines will complicate your upshot or mid-range putt. If you're long-right, the large boulder will block your putt completely.

Before you go, do try the putt from the top of the boulder. :)
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Tip #9
Tip by:Whirlwind Disc Golf Added on: Updated on: Hole:#6
Measures 498, plays ~437 due to 25-foot net decline from elevated tee to elevated green.

For Ams, this is a two-shot fairway. You've gotta get through the early gaps, or you'll be left with a steep 250-foot approach that feels further than the tee shot. Definitely better to throw your favorite fairway driver to 100-150 feet from green instead of hoping your distance driver gets to 50-100 feet.

For Pros, the straight rip is the percentage play. But deuce-happy power throwers should also consider the epic hyzer bomb -- which has no sizeable re-entry window until flying almost pin-high.

(Note: If you're already fatigued -- more common than not -- there's a huge flat boulder overlooking the valley about 50 feet in front of the tee.)
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Tip #10
Tip by:Whirlwind Disc Golf Added on: Updated on: Hole:#5
Measures 444, plays only ~293 due to 60-foot decline.

This hole has at least 5 conceivable routes -- two left-to-right, two right-to-left, one straight. The straight and slight rhbh hyzer are less narrow than the others; most players will choose one of these gaps.

The two best options help minimize the risk of errant shots fading hard down the hill left of the basket. First is going up the middle with a slightly overstable lhbh or righty sidearm that flexes uphill when it reaches the green. Second is an overstable shot starting slightly negative through the far right gap, flying over the ski run, and fading hard toward the green.
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