A Classic Course and a Technical Test
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Pros: Endicott is a technical 18 hole course in St. John, Missouri. It is one of the older courses in the area, built in 1996, just a year after Jefferson Barracks and Sioux Passage. While many other courses have since been added to the St. Louis area, Endicott has continued to be a popular spot for the local scene, and is a nice technical course for anyone wanting to test their skills with hitting lines.
Endicott is located just off of I-170, between I-70 and I-64 and not far from Lambert Airport. While access to this course is great overall, be mindful if playing around rush hour, as there are a few congestion points not far from this course. When turning off the highway going West on St. Charles Rock Rd., you will want to take the first right, which is Ridgeway/Endicott Ave., and then follow that road to the right. There are some restaurants close by if you need a quick bite to eat, and a Quicktrip that is easily accessible as well for any quick snacks or drink you may want.
Endicott Park includes a shelter, baseball field, basketball court, tennis court, and playground. The disc golf course is the main feature of the park, taking up more space than all of the other activities combined. The was historically a second baseball field that hole 14 bordered and arguably overlapped with, but the only evidence of its existence today is a single foul pole and the ground being flattened out.
The parking lot has two parking areas, neither of which are next to the start of the disc golf course. If you park in the lot next to the street, simply follow the path to the shelter, and hole 1 along with the course bulletin board will be on the opposite side. If you park in the lower lot next to the basketball/tennis court combo, there is also a path that will lead you to hole 1, and you will also be parked close to hole 18's pin. The shelter has bathrooms and a water fountain, though the bathrooms are often locked.
The start of the course is on the far side of the shelter, but on the opposite side of the playground from hole 1 is the practice basket. This is easy to miss, but what's nice about this practice basket is that they actually put bricks in the ground in 2 foot increments from the basket, from 10 feet to 40 feet. A lot of the bricks are faded and unreadable, but it's easy to figure it out from the ones that are readable. The practice area is mostly flat, so it's a nice opportunity to warm up before your round.
The bulletin board includes a course map and some information about leagues and the local St. Louis disc golf club. Most of the course is easy to navigate, but a couple of spots in the course may make it worth having a picture of the layout handy. Each hole has 1 concrete tee pad and 3 pin locations. All of the tees are 10 x 4 and are in great shape, and I don't recall having much trouble with grip in my time playing this course over the last decade or so. Some are starting to show some cracks, but are still a ways from needing repair.
The tee signs at Endicott provide pin locations and distances, a graphic showing the hole layout, and the location of the next tee. These signs are a huge step up from a decade ago, and are a welcome improvement to this course as well as others in the area. Attached or next to each of the 18 tee sign posts is a broom to clear tee pads of dirt or leaves.
The baskets are Gateway Titans, and are among the deepest baskets that you will find anywhere. These baskets are great at catching discs and keep them contained in the basket. A lot of the baskets have tape around the edges, I am assuming for glow rounds. Overall, the baskets are in great shape.
In addition to the usual equipment, this course has some great landscaping when it comes to stairs and other features. The upkeep on bridges over a creek, as well as the stairs on holes 7 and to 13, are in great shape and show some great care for this course. Hole 12's tee is especially nice, surrounded by brickwork and a stone sitting area behind the tee.
Endicott's design is among the most technically challenging in the St. Louis area. Each hole on this course provides different degrees of foliage, elevation, and distance. While there's only 1 hole on this course that let's you air a true drive out in the open, there's enough distance on this course to require a mix of midrange and driver shots off different tees.
There's a good amount of variety on this course in terms of how open the holes are, and how forgiving they are to errant throws. Hole 14 is going to be you opportunity to drive in the open, with the old baseball diamond allowing you to play a safe drive that curves around the right side of the fairway. Holes 4, 5 provide open shots with a few trees to avoid. On the opposite end of the spectrum, Hole 12 is a tunneled S shot that is as far as 428 feet, and can be very unforgiving of kicks off of trees or branches that run all along the fairway.
In between the extremes of the course are plenty of holes that range between clear fairways lined with brush like holes 6 and 13, to holes like 1 and 2 that don't have brush, but plenty of trees between you and the pin. In addition to foliage, this course has a good amount of elevation variety. You have some holes like 6 and 12 that are flat, but also have plenty of holes that go uphill (like 2, 4, and 9) and downhill (like 3, 5, and 18).
This course has plenty of variety to keep it fresh from hole to hole - forehand dominant and backhand dominant players will both find holes that benefit them at Endicott. As for signature holes, the C placements of 7 and 12 will always be in the running, as these are challenging holes with plenty of obstacles and brush to contend with. Hole 7's C placement ends with a near blind shot up a hill, making a birdie near impossible. These are among the hardest par 3s in the St. Louis region. In addition to these holes, I feel that hole 3 is among the most fun on the course. A large tree stands right in front of the teepad, requiring a hyzer forehand or backhand downhill. Both are good options, but plenty of trees along and in the fairway can make for a challenging line to hit.
Cons: While the tee signs are mostly great, a notable issue is the lack of a permanent way to show which pin placement is in use. About half of the tee signs have a clip of some sort showing what pin is in use, but the other half of the course has nothing. While you can see the pin and figure out which placement is in use from the teepad, some holes have blind shots and pin placements that are very different from one another. This may require either a blind shot or walking up the fairway to find the pin that is in use.
While the tee signs are by no means unreadable, some are starting to show their age with either dents or peeling lamination.
Overall, the borders of the fairways on this course are clearly defined and don't get too close to one another, holes 5 and 6 run pretty close to the backyards of neighboring houses. Hole 6 has some pins that come especially close to a yard, so be careful with your drives and approaches.
I'm aware that this is a personal problem, but I always seem to be able to avoid getting poison ivy while golfing except for when I play this course. Keep an eye out if you go off into the brush.
Other Thoughts: This course is firmly an intermediate course. Professional plays will likely not have too much trouble here, and beginning players will likely find a lot of these holes a hard test of their accuracy. This course feels relentless, and a par will feel very rewarding to a lot of players.
This is a classic St. Louis disc golf stop, and is a popular course among the local players. You will never have this course to yourself, and if you are playing your first round here, other players will be happy to answer any questions you have. This course has managed to retain its popularity over the years as more courses get installed around town, and that popularity is well earned. This course feels different than a lot of the other courses in the area, and is a great test of your technical skills.
You have many options in the St. Louis area for disc golf. If you choose Endicott for your round, you won't be disappointed.
12 of 12 people found this review helpful.
A ST Louis Must Play
5 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Not the easiest park to find once you turn into the neighborhood , but it IS just minutes off the highway . Endicott Park has many uses , but the park Features it's disc golf course . As soon as you park here , you will be stumped as to where the first hole is . You will have to walk downhill towards what looks like a bathroom ( It is ) and back uphill to the middle of the park . A Kiosk is there close to the first hole , which you will throw the opposite way from where you parked . The Kiosk had a mp , but you want to print one if you are an out of towner . The course normally gets a lot of play , especially from the locals , who are friendly and will point you in the right direction if you ask . The morning I played ( Memorial Day ) , there were probably close to 40 people on the course at the same time . The tee pads are extra wide and long and are grippy and pretty flush with the ground . Very good since it is an older course ( 1996 ) . The baskets are Gateway Titans and are heavy chained , deep basket . Great signage with map of the hole , possible positions of the basket , and NEXT tee arrows . The course also features enough elevation to make it interesting , and a creek which barely comes into play on a few holes . The bathrooms and water fountain are located next to hole one and you will also come around close to it at #9 . Another nice amenity is that there are Benches and trash cans at all the tee pads . A very big plus since this course has so much play . It is an intermediate level course, The pros will overpower this course , but this will be a challenge for everyone else . Basket placement is key . Some great spots for risk-reward drives to baskets the are nestled in bushes or along tree lines in the woods . Only a couple of bomber holes , so the course favors the technical player . Even though the park has a lot to offer in the way of different activities , you won't likely have to share the course with the non disc golfers . Plan to be here a while . You may have to sit behind groups stacked up on the course . It only means the course is as good as advertised . Signature hole : either #7 , with a tree-bush line down the left and a tight line of trees &brush on the left , to a landing area slightly right , guarded by medium sized trees , or #17 . Slight uphill to the pin , tucked into large bushes indie and on the left today ( You want to walk up the fairway to see the pin position on this one . I threw for the wrong opening and it cost me a stroke )
Cons: Not a lot of negatives , in my opinion . The start may be confusing for out of towners since you park at the edge of Endicott , then take a good walk to the middle of it to start . No pro tees , just one per hole ( Okay with me ) . Navigation can be confusing for first timers . PRINT A MAP . Even though this course is well taken care of , you can still lose a disc in some of the rough off the fairways . Course can get muddy .
Other Thoughts: This was the best course I played in the Saint Louis area by far , and the volume of disc golfers on the course when I played solidified my opinion . I couldn't decide what score to give this course , but the locals here decided it for me . This is a guarantee must-play if you are near St Louis . If you only have time for one course while here , Endicott is it . My Recommendation : If anywhere close to Saint Louis - PLAY IT !!!!
5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
0 Helpful / 7 Not
This is one of my favorite courses that is pretty close to me.
Pros: I really like the atmosphere. It has a great lay out. Not overly wooded but plenty of trees and hills to make it a lot of fun.
0 of 7 people found this review helpful.
Challenging course for intermediate players
2 Helpful / 10 Not
Pros: Nice use of the land
Tight,challenging holes mixed with open holes
Great way to work on technical game
Cons: Can be challenging for beginners or recreational players
Some holes are poorly designed
Other Thoughts: Played this course as part of the st louis open and while it was a mowed and nice looking park I didnt find it very accessible to an beginner or someone who casually likes to play disc golf as it seems to be geared more toward more professional players.
2 of 12 people found this review helpful.
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Pros: This course is an intermediate level course set in a multi use park right off the highway. It would be very challenging for beginners but would also help to improve their game.
Baskets - 18 Gateway Titan baskets. These were very grippy and had deep baskets. I had no issues with spit outs. There is also a practice basket on the East side of the pavilion somewhat close to hole one.
Tees - 1 very large concrete tee per hole. They were also grippy and had no issues with slipping.
Signs - Each tee sign had a map, distances for each pin, par, location for each pin, sponsors, and an arrow pointing to the next sign. There was also a 2 sided billboard at start of hole 1 listing info on the sport, events, and other various disc golf information.
Variety - This course was a great mix of hilly (both uphill and downhill) and open as well as short and technical. Every hole had some sort of obstacle. The park was filled with mature trees. Although I would not consider it a true water hazard, there was a small creek running alongside holes 3, 4, 6, and 7 but was less than a foot deep when I played. Trees and elevation caused blind shots on holes 4, 7, 8, 11, 15, and 17. No true bomber holes but this course will still challenge you. 8 and 12 were tunnel shots.
Benches/Tables and trash cans at every tee.
Easy to save par on most holes (can be a con for some).
Water fountain and bathroom on site.
Playground on site (for children if you bring them).
Nearby options for food and drink. Gas station right off highway. Fast Food within a short drive.
Cons: Long walk from parking lot to hole 1. Have to walk near basket of 18 which can be dangerous.
Only 1 tee per hole. Yes having multiple pin positions helps to keep the course different every time, alternate tees would be a nice addition to this course. Would take it up a notch.
Having some sort of listing showing which basket location was being used would make it more playable for first timers.
Poison ivy around some of the trees and in the woods.
Navigation was tricky at first. Next hole arrows would be amazing. After 5, the closest tee is 7. After 7, I walked down a path and found the tee for 12. Had to back track to find 8. Some of the tees were not very close to the previous basket location. Long walks from 2 to 3, 4 to 5, 5 to 6, 8 to 9, and 14 to 15. Like I said, next hole arrows would improve flow.
Baskets were not always easy to spot since they are solid grey. Blended in with the trees behind them.
Due to being close to highway, cars can be heard on 11-18. Not necessarily a peaceful noise nor a true con. Some prefer courses that are quiet.
Bordering fairways can be dangerous.
Glass around basket for 4.
Other Thoughts: I only had time for one course on my trip to Saint Louis. This one was the highest rated as well as closest to my hotel. I was not disappointed. I am from Indianapolis (very flat) so I tend to enjoy any course with hills. I would like to have rated this course a 3.75 but that was not an option. It is better than the courses in Indy where I feel are a 3.5 so I gave it a 4.
This course made the most of the land it has. Added tees, better way to list the pin position, and next hole arrows would take this course up a notch. I would like to try some of the other courses in the area but would definitely come back if I had the time to play it.
9 of 9 people found this review helpful.
Nice, Technical Challenging Course!
4 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Endicott Park is a fairly good sized county park with some ideal terrain for disc golf. Much of the course is set on nicely rolling hills. There is a kiosk at the beginning with the usual tournament and league information. There is a practice basket here too. The tee pads are concrete and lengthy. The tee signs are excellent and provide all the information you need. There are three baskets placements for each hole. They are the Red A's. The Yellow B's and the C's which are the whites. They are now indicated by a bolt in the signs. The course is not insanely long but probably makes up for average distances with some very tight and technical holes. The baskets are Gateway Titans, purchased in 2005. They're looking a little worn now and I found them to be hard to spot in the brush. Some baskets have a little concrete block pointing to the next tee. I think some of these arrows were overgrown and hidden under some vegetation.
I liked # 7 as the signature hole here. It's 445' in the C position and very tight off the tee. But what really excited me about this hole was the basket placment. It was set up a 20' high embankment making for a very interesting approach shot.
I might like 18 just as much. From the C position, it's 390' down a slight hill and then turns right into a grove of trees. It's just a very pretty hole to finish on.
Cons: I had some navigational issues here. Somehow, after playing 12, I missed something and never played 13 & 14.
The course is a little too technical for me to really love.
The # 5 tee sign is faded and impossible to read.
Other Thoughts: Sometime during my round, there was this really loud roaring noise. I mean, rock your world loud. It was from a plane getting ready to take off. It sounded like it was coming from the next hole. I assume Endicott is close to the airport. I might need earplugs here.
I like this course but didn't love it. If I lived in St.Louis, it would be on my regular playing circuit. I think I would grow fonder of it with more rounds played.
4 of 5 people found this review helpful.
0 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Moderately technical course that requires many different techniques off the tees. Several different types of holes too.
Great location! Very close to the majority of St. Louis.
Cons: No big open holes. No huge elevation holes.
Other Thoughts: Grass gets long before it gets cut and I haven't figured out how often or when they cut it. It gets pretty buggy if the grass hasn't been cut though.
0 of 1 people found this review helpful.
7 Helpful / 0 Not
Awesome Park Course
Pros: -Baskets are Gateway Titans that are in good shape and catch well
-Nice concrete tee-pads
-Multiple pin positions on each hole help to add variety to the holes if you play the course a lot.
-Tee-signs are in very good shape. They show a good layout of each hole, each pin-position, the distance to each position, and there is a screw on each tee-pad marking what pin-placement the basket currently is in.
-Good use of the trees to make some tight wooded fairways and then some more wide-open holes. The course has a good variety of more open holes and tightly wooded holes.
-Course has a lot of good elevation change incorporated. The front nine especially makes really good use of the elevation in the park.
-The foliage on the course helps to add risk/reward and punishment for a bad shot.
-This course has some really fun pin-positions. My favorite pin-position was hole 7, where the basket was on a small wooden plateau. There were also quite a few tucked into alcoves in the trees.
-The course requires a pretty good variety of different shots, rather than one specific course, which is nice.
Cons: -Lots of erosion on this course. It gets very muddy after the rain and it was quite slippery.
-Hole 14 plays a little too close to the baseball field for my liking.
-A couple of navigational issues. After the basket for 7 there was a well-worn path that ran to tee 12 rather than hole 8. On hole 15 I ended up at the basket first rather than the tee-pad. Also some of the tee-pads are really close to each other so it can sometimes be hard to know which tee-pad is next.
-Some baskets are hard to spot at they blend in with the foliage well.
-Shorter than some of the other courses in the area. The longest hole I saw was under 500 feet. The distances on the course start to feel a little repetitive. This course could definitely use 1 or 2 longer holes.
-Some neighboring backyards come into play on holes 5+6.
-Some of the park users seemed unaware of the course and there could be conflicts with other park users.
-A bit of a long walk back to the parking lot from Hole 18.
-Some of the holes play a little close to each other
Other Thoughts: Overall, this was a really fun course with a lot of variety and good hole design. There are a couple flaws, but overall if you are in the St. Louis area make sure you play this course.
7 of 7 people found this review helpful.
1 Helpful / 4 Not
Pros: Great course layout, good signage and good use of the existing land, there is a good effort to avoid holes overlapping on any of the throws but still utilize the land efficiently.
I was forced to throw each type of shot in my bag at various times, flicks, long anhyzers, low ceilings, you name it.
Almost all the baskets seemed fairly placed, where a perfect tee shot would give you a chance at birdie, there were identifiable paths and fairways on every hole.
All concrete pads oriented properly make for enjoyable tee shots on almost every hole.
Cons: It seemed like a common theme in most of the St Louis area courses to use the heavy duty Gateway Titan baskets, but I just dislike the feel of putting into the really heavy chains and the super deep baskets, but this isn't a knock on the course specifically.
Other Thoughts: The course could use a few longer holes, there were only 2 holes I really uncorked drives on, other than that it's a lot of placement and you can score pretty well.
1 of 5 people found this review helpful.
0 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Endi offers a wide variety of shots for everyone out there. For the most part I would consider endicott to be more of a technical course, though there are a few opportunities to air your arm out a bit. There are quite a few birdie-able hole out there however, if you get off of the fairway at all on some.. you are scrambling for your bogey..Endicott it an older park so.. the woods are made up of very large matured trees.
Added Pros include: Concrete Tee pads, 3/4 pin locations, trash cans, bathrooms, full electric pavilions, practice basket, metal tee signs, park benches etc etc.
Cons: - doesnt loop
-sometimes crowded.. One of STL's most popular courses (not necessarily a bad thing)
-sometimes there are family reunions, bbq's etc at the pavilion that can get a bit loud
Other Thoughts: Thank you Dave Mac for designing this one all those years ago!! One of my favorite courses though it kills me all of the time
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