More fun than I expected
1 Helpful / 0 Not
- Good baskets are in great shape and mostly visible from tees
- A lot of fun shots. Hole # 13 is in my top 5 favorite DG holes
- Good elevation change
- Don't necessarily need a certain shot to avoid obstacles/trees, but is necessary to have your shots finish a certain way to stick the green or avoid skipping over a cliff, etc. Made you think about which shot to throw and decide whether to go for it or not.
- The creek/canyon system plays a big role throughout the course. Almost feel like you are throwing over a river or pond on some holes, with the possibility of getting your disc back.
- A good change-up from the standard park-like DG course
- Good variation in distance with plenty of chances to air it out a little bit.
- Was quite rugged which also gave a good workout while playing. Half the fun was trying to figure out the best way to cross the creek/canyon.
- Found myself putting in a lot of different situations - on a hill, from a bush, low ceiling, combinations of all of those. Really makes you work on your putting game beyond flat, open puts with sure footing.
- Friendly folks. Passed a few very large groups that I would have stuck around and played with if I wasn't on a schedule.
- Nice, flat, big tee-pads
Cons: - No signage and map could definitely use some updating as others have noted. Never did find the pad for 16 but just threw from 9 in the opposite direction which seemed to work.
- Distance listed here is inaccurate for several holes
- No benches, facilities.
- A few places with trash but didn't get in the way
Other Thoughts: Have been in the area for a few months but was scared away by the reviews, but will make it one of the ones I play at regularly under the right conditions. I am probably int/advanced and it was a ton of fun. Played it on a 50 degree day in January which was about perfect conditions as far as I could tell. Threw about 2-3 shots on each hole to try out different angles and didn't end up losing any discs. Had a few go in the creek but was able to retrieve because like a lot of the other courses in the area, there isn't a ton of foliage this time of year so things kind of open up. For sure wouldn't want to play in the heat of day or after a rain.
Anyway, was pleasantly surprised. Going back and forth between 3 and 3.5 for a rating. With good signage, navigation, etc., kind of cleaning things up, could definitely be a 4 star course. I feel like it is worth playing for hole 13 alone.
1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
1 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Mentally challenging course (risk x reward)
Lots of Elevation change
Great for good players
Lots of walking
Almost no traffic
Great use of ob and basket placement(across stream and farmers field ob)
Cons: No signage. Print a map or play with a local
Lots of walking in between holes
Beginners Beware, if you can't throw 300' with decent accuracy you will probably not be loving it
Avoid on a hot day
No trash cans and lots of littter
Other Thoughts: Quite a few wide open holes with ob or drop offs in play. Challenge this course on a windy day and make a smart lay up. Pat yourself on the back, great course to practice good decision making.
1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
3 Helpful / 0 Not
A decent course that could use a lot of improvment.
Pros: -Lots of elevation changes.
-Lots of wide open spaces.
-Tees and baskets are in very good condition.
-Difficult terrain makes it challenging for advanced players.
Cons: -Lots of trash everywhere. Broken glass and other huge piles of rusted metal. Looks like people have been illegally dumping here or have in the past.
-No signage at all. Very hard to find tees, baskets, and where the next hole is.
-Some holes are just too difficult. Hole 4 seems almost impossible not to lose a disc.
-Very hard to cross the creek/stream and to get to various areas.
-Long walks between some holes.
-Needs an updated map.
-Would be impossible to play if muddy out.
Other Thoughts: This course could be an amazing course. Unfortunately it leaves much to be desired. Signs would help dramatically, as well as flags at the tees and holes to help see where they are over the hills. I couldn't find the tee for hole 3, and couldn't find the basket for hole 8. This was even with the map I got off of this site, which seems incorrect as various holes have been changed. All the trash around the course is a huge bummer too. Between holes 2 and 3 the path is absolutely littered with broken glass everywhere. Having a bridge over the stream would help out a lot as well. I really wanted to love this course because its only minutes from my house and I like open courses with elevation changes, but next time I'll definitely go play elsewhere. This course was a disappointment.
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
0 Helpful / 2 Not
A Very Junction Course
Pros: Great tee-pads all over the course. Pretty easy to navigate the course as well. The baskets are easy to spot, and are in good condition.
Cons: Wish there wasn't so much walking in between the holes. It can be difficult to cross different parts of the river at certain places as well.
Other Thoughts: If you play this course when it is wet outside, you will get very muddy.
0 of 2 people found this review helpful.
5 Helpful / 3 Not
I was lucky to play with...
Pros: This is for the advanced player.
Plenty of challenges.
A great coarse to challenge your accuracy
Plenty of huge risk/reward shots
Cons: If you arent a more advanced, be prepared to lose discs....or spend a lot of time looking for them if you miss your aimed shot. Use a spotter!
Do not play by yourself.
This coarse can be a disc eating machine
No signs or anything to help orientate where you are on the coarse. Remember if you are from out of town playing, I-70 runs east/west...it can be confusing...especially in the desert.
No bathrooms/ and could use a lot of water fountains.
If you have kids in tow...not very kid friendly.
It is a looooooong hike, be prepared.
I WOULD NOT WEAR SANDALS. I would wear closed toed shoes.
Especially if it has been raining....or starts raining.
Other Thoughts: I was lucky enough to arrange a 'lesson' from one of our local pros and we just happened to meet at Matchett instead of the park where we were originally agreed too.
This older (50+) man knew that coarse inside and out and watching him navigate it was amazing.
After spending hours with me and my wife working on driving, he invited us to play the coarse with him.
Since he knew the coarse, the no signage didn't come into play with me...but, if I were trying to figure it out on my own it would be very confusing.
I expected him to spend an hour with him and he spent the entire afternoon with me and my wife, with 5 year old kid in tow. So, after hour 2 of lessons...he then invited us to play a around with him. After that, plus the coarse...the kid got bored and tired. There is a lot of elevation changes. She can normally handle hiking an 18h coarse, but this one kicked her ass. It is NOT kid friendly.
There are better family friendly 18h coarses' that I would prefer to go to in the Grand Valley just because my kids are almost always with me, rather than play here.
BRING H2O!!! IT IS THE DESERT. IT CAN HURT YOU IN THE SUMMER AND WINTER.
90+ plus is bad enough and in the summer it commonly gets to 110+...under the direct sun it can feel like 130.
In the winter it can get windy and the temp can get below sub-temps. That can dehydrate you just as easy as the hot.
Overall, I think it is a great coarse. However, I believe that this coarse is too advanced for me to play and enjoy. And I had the designer showing me how to do it.
There are plenty of people who can go shoot it all day long. I just know it is too advanced for me at this time.
**On a side note, I live here and I am tired of the desert. There are a lot of coarses around here that you do not have to go directly into the desert that I would rather play at. And if you want to play in the desert and want something really pretty to look at....Moab is 1 ½ hrs away. But, that is biased because I am tired of the desert.
5 of 8 people found this review helpful.
4 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: -Concrete Tee Pads
-Good use of elevation
-Interesting terrain, lots of small canyons throughout the course
-Good variety of shots
Cons: -Bring a crappy disc you don't mind loosing, and maybe wear shoes you dont mind getting wet.
-Hole one is missing
-Poor use of a lot of land, the layout could have had 27 holes on it
-A lot of walking between holes
Other Thoughts: Good course, it just has alot of walking in between holes, be ready for a hike.
4 of 5 people found this review helpful.
7 Helpful / 0 Not
What a course!
Pros: Where to begin... This course is TOUGH! The risk reward relationship is huge here. Make a good shot and you're loving life. Make a bad shot and you spend 15 minutes finding your disc. The course runs through a bunch of gullies/arroyos/washouts or whatever you want to call them. There is a stream that runs through the middle of the course that is pretty much a small canyon. Shoot into the canyon and you're looking for your disc.
On almost all of the holes, the stream comes into play (with the exception of the first few). You either shoot over the stream or along it. One of my favorite holes you actually play down along the bottom of one of the arroyos towards the stream.
All of the holes I played (hole 1 seems to be missing) had excellent concrete tee pads and the number 13 tee is on top of a tall hill shooting out over the stream. What a great hole!
Bring a map, the map posted here was perfect. I got turned around finding the 11 tee but that was my own fault for following what I thought was a trail to the tee but wasn't. Other than that, I didn't have any problems navigating the course.
Cons: Hole 1 seems to be missing. I looked and looked but couldn't find it anywhere. I did see what I thought looked like an old tee pad where the tee was marked on the map so perhaps it was removed. It did look as though there was some earth moving activities recently so that might have been the reason.
I played in the winter so the weather was perfect (a little on the chilly side, just the way I like it) but I can definitely see this course being a scorcher in the summer. Bring lots of water! There weren't any facilities and no where to get water during the round.
The stream/canyon can be a doozy if your disc goes in there but, that's one of the things that makes this course interesting. After rain, this place would be crazy muddy to try and navigate. I would recommend avoiding it when it's muddy (I stepped in a couple muddy spots and it was really slick).
Playing across the stream can be challenging as you have to cross the stream several times to get to the next basket or tee. It wasn't too bad if you can find the path most people use but if you have to go down there to find a disc it can be treacherous.
There wasn't a single sign along the entire course letting you know where you were or what hole you were on which is why the map is critically important.
If you are out of shape, it's definitely a work out. Take your time and catch your breath and enjoy the exercise.
Other Thoughts: All in all, I really enjoyed the course and if in the area again with time to play, I would definitely go back to it.
Take your time, place your shots well, and enjoy.
7 of 7 people found this review helpful.
1 Helpful / 3 Not
Pros: Very challenging if your looking to see how good your game has got, also if your looking for exercise play this course.
Cons: This course is a disc eating maching. If you wana loose some discs play this course. The terrain is super hilly and one hell of a workout to get through, After playing the whole course and looking for discs that fell into the rivers and such it took us 3 hours to play, Pretty nuts
1 of 4 people found this review helpful.
Not worth it
Pros: Not too much to say here. Decent elevation gains/losses. No one plays here.
Cons: Impossible to navigate. Discs are easily lost. Rough terrain. Hot and dry. No drinking water. Impossible impossible to navigate. No tee box for the first hole so just skip it. Difficult course to find. Without a map you're doomed. No markers for anything. This course will take you hours to finish especially if you don't know it. River crossings are very dangerous as the bridges have collapsed. Dangerous terrain. You must wear hiking boots.
Other Thoughts: Not worth playing.
Challenging Par 3
Pros: -Extremely challenging. Definitely the hardest par 3 course I've played yet.
-Great use of space and the surrounding geography.
-There were no garbage holes. Each one seemed to be thoughtfully designed and required careful shot selection.
Cons: -Not a good place to take a beginner as this course is very unforgiving to misplaced shots, especially tee shots.
Other Thoughts: YOU MUST USE THE MAP! I followed mine religiously and never once had to wander around for the next tee pad. I did have to search for a few baskets that weren't visible from the tee. I appreciated those basket locations though because it made for fun and challenging tee shots. I suppose that a basic sign at each tee pad showing the location of the basket would be helpful for the first timer (like myself). But after playing the course once no signage is needed.
Overall I'd say that this is a great course and I can't wait to get a chance to play it again.
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