Flying Bison since 84!!!
5 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: DG here since 84 maaannn!!!!
Course has been upgraded in the past year, and now has 2 Concrete Tees and 2 Veteran Baskets per hole, White and or Red... with several pin locations for each Hole to boot! Looks like they get rotated fairly often too :)
The Teesigns have the Pin Positions and footage relative for that specific Tee. And with the Multiple bright colorful Baskets, it's pretty easy to Deduct which you're going for
Also added 3 Practice Holes with a White and Red Veteran per. These are A B C and have 1 Concrete Tee. Bonus DG!!!
Big Creek winds down the middle of this Park and comes into play numerous times: Definitely on Holes 11 15 and 16 as drives have a forced carry across the Creek, super Fun shots here :D Creek could eat a Badshot on A B 10 12 13 14 & 17. Big Creek is awesome, and also a legit Hazard
There's a ton of different shots and lines at Frontier!!! I used all of the discs in my bag here, a Few shots even used the Destroyer :)
Park has all the extra things people like: Bathrooms Garbages, Bridges, and some Benches
Cons: uuuuummmmm, it's not 42 Holes with 2 Pads and Baskets per, cause that schnizzy would be Chain Bangin Heaven, SON!!!
Water does Puddle on C in front of both Baskets, and by one of 13s Pin Locations. But that's not bad at all, considering... things and stuff
Hole 7 : Between the White Tee and Baskets. Ya know, the Parking Lot and Kids Playground. (Whadya gonna do. There is a RHBH bailout route)
Other Thoughts: I first came thru Hays in 08, and found this GEM. Had the good fortune of returning these past three years, to find this DGC continuing to flourish. It's one of my personal faves, and I always have a Fun time playing here
For as much as putting Pin Positions near Teepads is Taboo, Frontier gets a pass... cause with the Highway on one side of the Park, the RailTrail on the other side, and then the Big Creek winding down the middle... there's only so much space for all these Teepads and Baskets!
And as much as I may dislike 5s Red and 7s White Tees, I really like the 18 alternatives!!!... especially 11 & 16 (Red Tees are Alternate, fyi)
Great to see an Oldschool Course get updated, when so many out there get neglected. Hayes is lucky to have Mr Rice and those Flying Bison
5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
1 Helpful / 1 Not
Great Course, with amazing updates
Pros: Great Tee Pads/Signs
Great New Vet Baskets
Multiple Tees and Baskets on each hole giving diversity on difficulty
Grounds are very well kept
Awesome Community and Safe Area
Cons: Some tees/shots run close to playgrounds, but you can play alt tees to avoid them
Possible tree trimming on tunnel shots to open the option more, but all shots are possible
Other Thoughts: This is the best the course has looked ever. Must play if you are in the vicinity
1 of 2 people found this review helpful.
6 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: - good new tee signs that give you all the info you need
- great large concrete tee pads
- good variety of distances ranging from 175 to 600 feet
- tons of trees and OB to offer challenge
- some slight elevation change but not much
- a beautiful park that seems to be well maintained
- navigation of the course was relatively easy
Cons: - some holes play directly over playgrounds and other commonly used public areas
- a few basket locations are very close to tee pads making a dangerous scenario very possible
- it was pretty difficult to find a few of the basket locations, definitely had to walk up a few fairways
Other Thoughts: Quality course that with some small layout adjustments this could easily be a 4 star course.
6 of 8 people found this review helpful.
Best in the west
2 Helpful / 3 Not
Pros: Amazing course. Multiple tees and pin positions on most holes. Brand new signs on all holes. Course flows extremely well. Water hazards make this course a good challenge for technical course enthusiasts. Set in a beautiful old forest park.
Cons: Watch out for holes 15 and 16 the creek near by is known for swallowing discs. Make sure to snap a picture of the course map at the first tee otherwise the course can be challenging to follow for first timers.
Other Thoughts: A must play course if traveling threw western kansas. Truly a destination course.
2 of 5 people found this review helpful.
2 Helpful / 2 Not
Middle of Kansas Awesome
Pros: If you are like me and favor courses in well maintained parks with large, old growth trees, this is a near perfect course.
It has concrete tees, some slight elevation, and great shots over and around a decent size creek.
Best of all, it is well mowed and maintained. This makes the perfect mid-Kansas stop to break up those long road trips.
Cons: No signs. There are a few tricky bits that can get you lost, especially when you have to cross the bridge over the creek.
Lots of walking to see blind shots, but having spotters out on the fairway on blind shots keeps me from wasting time looking for discs, so I didn't mind it that much.
Only got the pig smell on one hole, but it was memorable.
Other Thoughts: After you leave KC, this may be the best course near I-70 till you hit the mountains.
2 of 4 people found this review helpful.
5 Helpful / 1 Not
Amazing course in need of signage
Pros: Although perhaps bias (having played this course when I was younger), I always really loved this course. The majestic cottonwood trees, the very real water traps, the vastness of all 18 holes with no overlaps, the buffalo, and the variety in the holes. This course is challenging and requires the ability to drive far. It also demands a great deal of accuracy on the holes with water traps - and there are several. There are also opportunities to open up. The variety of shots exposes the strengths and weaknesses of all players. There are two tees for each hole and two pins that will occasionally relocate. The placement of the tees are very thoughtful and well conceived. The pins are also cleverly placed. The overall design of this course is quite remarkable. It does not favor right or left handed players, and will require forehand and backhand shots from every player. The placement of tees and pins isn't obvious or contrived or intentionally difficult or intentionally obnoxious - every toss on this course is a real pleasure. If you like disc golf, you cannot pass this one up - courses of this caliber are rare.
Cons: Fortunately for me, I grew up with this course, even though I didn't take my technique seriously until I moved away from Hays for college, many years ago. I played this course yesterday for the first time in over six years. Without my intimate knowledge of the course layout, I surely would have been very frustrated. Frontier Park is really four or five parks grouped together separated by main roads, forested areas, and an impassable creek. The course utilizes this entire area. Hole seven requires a very (relatively) long walk, over a traffic bridge and roadway, along a dyke, and several hundred feet from the last pin - and there is essentially no signage to explain this. It almost seems like you're leaving the park and entering a different part of the town. There are beautiful limestone posts that once had maps for each hole; these have long been neglected. Normally I appreciate walk-aheads on holes to scout out the pin - it's more exercise. But since this course is already so expansive, scouting out holes for first-timers probably becomes tiresome very quick. It is hard not to disagree with those who have already pointed out the lack of signs, despite finding this course so outstanding. My recommendation, like with any course, is that if you have a smartphone like nearly everyone on the planet does, snap a photo of the course map at tee 1. This course is so vast and detailed, with alternative holes and tees, that you will really have to make an effort to study the map, and review details at every single tee. This is fairly standard for anybody who plays new courses often, but Frontier Park is extra special in this sense.
Other Thoughts: If night golf is your thing, the pins on this course use reflective tape for the number designation. A quick flick of your flashlight easily shows where each pin sits.
As I've already mentioned, this course is quite long, and does one gigantic loop. Be prepared for a long hike, bring lots of water, and I always recommend a short break at holes that have benches.
5 of 6 people found this review helpful.
Home of the flying bison
4 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: +Course map on bulletin board at tee one.
+Concrete tee pads & mach 3s.
+Alt. tees and pin locations on most all holes.
+Limestone fence posts mark orginal tee pad locations.
+Beautiful mature trees including majestic cottonwoods.
+Course follows and crosses over big creek several times making for many pucker shots during round. I carry at least 2 water discs per round.
+Established course built in the early 80s.
+Course has a great tradition with many admirers.
+Must throw a controlled round to score well.
+Well balanced for both lefties and righties.
+Newly added holes A,B,and C, are an option for the more technical crowd.
Cons: -Signage is non existence. Can be very confusing for first timers but for the seasoned disc golfer navigation should not be to big of a problem. Just remember cross main street bridge after hole 6.
-Tee pads are short but wide.
-Course can become very busy during prime throwing hours. The people of Hays love throwing disc.
-A few pins are blind so be prepared to walk fairways to locate basket.
-Some throws cross park roadways but with a little patience not really an issue. Roadways are OB.
-Wandering park goers may interrupt round momentarily at times.
-Course does not loop back to parking lot during round so pack for 18.
-High winds can make for very interesting round.
-Only 2 or 3 bomber holes.
Other Thoughts: Frontier park is one of the oldest disc golf courses in the country. The course design is amazing. Not one boring hole on the course. Erant shots will cost you strokes and discs. Be prepared to stay focused for 18 holes. I believe Frontier Park to be one of the most interesting and challenging disc golf courses in the country. For the true disc golf enthusiast Frontier disc golf course is a must play.
Edit: (July of 2017) Recently the course has been updated with new signs making navigation much easier.
As a side note I threw my first disc on this course. I could not believe how much fun disc golf can be. It was love at first throw.
4 of 5 people found this review helpful.
7 Helpful / 1 Not
Old But Good
Pros: This is a challenging little course set in a very nice park in the small town of Hays, KS. The design of the course has to be mentioned as simply amazing at time and really good the rest of the time. Shots range from nice and long and really short. The course tends to dictate what kind of shot you are going to throw and the more different shots you have the better. There are multiple tee pads and pin positions on every holes. There is enough space in the park that they could have 2 separate 18 holes courses. While other amenities may be a little far away, the park does have some very nice features including a the ability to turn this one course into two eighteen hole courses. There is a strong local club that does a great job with the course and setting it up for tournaments was second to none. There are a lot of trees on this course and most of them seem to come into play. Precision is a must on this course as I found out the hard way and did not shoot well..
Cons: Baskets are quite old, some of them definitely should be retired in favor of new baskets. The tee pads felt very short to be when we were playing off the tee pads. Even in the midst of a tournament there was enough park traffic that it become interesting on a couple of times. There is some water that you will not want to go into to retrieve a disc. Regular tee signs were less than ideal. Several baskets were all too close to a tees pad. Occasionally fairways will cross each other. The neighbors on one side are buffalo ranchers.
Other Thoughts: This course was a lot of fun and very challenging all at the same time. I played alternate layouts for this course for a tournament. I wish there was a piece of land like this close to where I live. This is a course worth the stop and time to play it. I believe that in the normal layout hole 1 is over as far West as you can go before not being in the park any longer. The A, B and C holes are able to be played on a regular basis and have permanent tees and baskets. One could either choose to start or to finish on these holes.
7 of 8 people found this review helpful.
2 Helpful / 5 Not
Middle of Nowhere Surprise
Pros: This is where I learned how to golf. Has great holes that will call for every kind of shot in the bag. Plus it is always blowing, which will help with your wind game. Lots of hazards to deal with (roads, water, sloping greens). Perfect resting place when heading through Kansas.
Cons: Some of the tees can be pretty close to the last basket...so watch your back.
Other Thoughts: Check out Ellis, KS (11 miles west) if you have time too.
2 of 7 people found this review helpful.
6 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: This course has 2 sets of tees for every hole and there are also alt. pin placements. There is water threat on a few holes, especially on the holes where you tee off across the creek.
There are enough trees to keep this park style course interesting. Several of the holes require line shaping too.
There are long holes and short holes here as well depending on which set of tees you prefer to play.
There are other amenities here: restrooms, playgrounds, etc.
Some of my favorite holes here 5, 11, 16, & 17.
Cons: The biggest cons for me is the lack of signage on the stone markers. There was only one hole that still had the hole layout on a post and it was hard to read. This makes it difficult for the first timer or the out of towner to navigate this course and judge the distance of their shot selection. Obviously scouting ahead could be done but with a little updating that problem could be eliminated.
Lots of beer cans on the ground, some trash cans might alleviate this???
There are a few holes where a road or two comes into play. Also there are a couple of holes where a swing set might get plunked so please look before you rip.
Like others have said there is a smell that is pretty stank about hole 7 or so. I didn't notice when I played here in Nov., but when I first played here in the summer 2 years ago it was pretty ripe.
Other Thoughts: This is a pretty nice course even with some of its flaws. Yes the music can be annoying coming from the pool, but how is that the course's fault?
I feel this course has taken a few hits recently. It is a course that will challenge your decision making on some holes and offers risk reward on other holes. If the signage were to be updated I think the reviews for this course would be better. With that said its one of the better courses west of I135. I personally can overlook some of the piddly flaws because the disc golf here is pretty good. And after all isn't that what you came here for in the first place?
6 of 7 people found this review helpful.
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