St. Joseph, MN 
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Uploaded By: notapro Hole #16 (Taken 7/2012)
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Hole #16 Tee

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 Solid Course But Lost Me At The End!

1    7/20/2011   8/24/2011
Review By: The Valkyrie Kid
Played: 1167  Reviewed: 1115  Exp: 39.5 Years
5 Helpful / 3 Not
Pros: I played on a very wet day and thus left the on-line map in the car. Could've used it. The first five holes played out in the large open area of the park. # 1 has a nice starting area with a bench, garbage can, and a nice block monument with the course map. The course changes after the long walk to # 6 when you get to the first of the water hazards. The next few holes were technical in nature. Navigation was a constant challenge through this section thanks to damage of the teesigns. I had to spend quite a bit of time walking a up ahead to the next basket and then back tracking. And this was with the fairly helpful next tee signs present.
Cons: Multiple pads and baskets in the open area combined with poor/damaged signs makes for confusion for us first timers to this course. These traditional opague tee signs are just so inviting for the local teen populations to grafitti up or vandalize. I see them destroyed at courses all over the country.
I'm never a fan of playing up and down park roads and maintenaince areas. That's always an ugly unattractive way to design a course and this was no exception. Luckily, as this was a wet day, there was no smell wafting through the air. There is a great risk of lost discs on this course. This is not a course to play alone. I never did find the # 17 basket and without finding it had no chance of finding # 18. In the rain, I just called it a day.
Other Thoughts: Had I the chance to play this course on a nice sunny day, my thoughts on it might reflect brighter reflections in general. Somehow, sloshing through rain soaked lawns and hunting for discs in soaked bushes doesn't always give one the brightest overall picture of a course. But after writing over 300 of these reviews, I'm like a professional disc golf course reviewer. I'm truly capable of not letting cloudy skies, or a little rain, or lightning, or thunder or water soaked fairways or moonsoons or being carried away by flash floods, affect my reviews one iota. I'm beyond reproach. I'm totally unbiased. I'm as honest as the day is long. I'm practically Abe Lincoln.

And if you think I've underrated your course, I'll be glad to add an extra .5 to your course's rating for each $5 check received.

5 of 8 people found this review helpful.


1    7/14/2011   8/7/2011
Review By: Vetiver1978
Played: 9  Reviewed: 9  Exp: 18.5 Years
2 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: looked to be a nice enough park for out door activities other than disc golf
bathrooms on site
another 18 holer to play in the St. Cloud area
Cons: the front 9 holes were clustered together. did not know at first which was which because of all the dual pins and poor signage (signs apeared to have been vandalized - idiots)

unnecessary water hazzards. I can apreciate a water hazzard here and there but come on, it gets a little excessive on this course

there was a giant manure pile that we encountered early on in the back 9. wow! what a bad idea having a massive crap pile spewwing horrible stink into the hot humid summer air in a public park. wouldnt reccomend stopping for a snack on that hole

although it hadnt rained in a week or so the course was pretty wet and muddy. this was especially true on the back section of the course. got a feeling its a common problem given the amount of water that exists there to begin with
Other Thoughts: I really wanted to like this course but a handful of little things kept me from it. then when we came upon the manure pile already annoyed from having wet and muddy shoes, it proved to be to much.......I'd say to pick a dryer year to play it and maybe sign some kind of petition to get that manure pile removed. only then would I go out of my way to play it again

2 of 2 people found this review helpful.

 A progressive harder course

2-4    7/28/2011   7/30/2011
Review By: Double Helix
Played: 147  Reviewed: 10  Exp: 28.6 Years
Pros: Concrete tee pads. Awesome layout. Variety of shot selection. Water and bathrooms on course. Good pins. Signs point to next pin (and sometimes help to see current pin).
Cons: Double pins on the front 9 confusing to first timers (but probably cool w/locals as it adds another 9 to the course). Muddy as heck after a rain - floods easily. A couple blind shots. It would be nice to have a course map on site.
Other Thoughts: A personal favorite. I love the layout, even with a couple blind shots. Well manicured park setting on the front side with technical woods style on the back. Course gets more challenging as you go along. Worth playing if in town or a day trip if not. This course is fun for all from the beginner to the pro.

 Local favorite

5+    6/1/2011   6/2/2011
Review By: Sargentgeneral
Played: 110  Reviewed: 11  Exp: 7.6 Years
This review was updated on 5/1/2012
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: - Variety of holes and shots
- Multiple pin positions
- Fun water hazards
- Practice basket
- Great tee boxes
- Brand New Signs are wonderful! (Update)
- Frequent pin changes throughout the season
Cons: - Tons of poison Ivy
- Course retains water after rain and early spring
- Manure pile is a pain
- Walk from 5-6 could be confusing for some non-locals.
Other Thoughts: If you play it in the late fall this course is simply wonderful. The bugs have gone away, the standing water has subsided, and the changing trees make this a truly amazing course. As a local who plays the course a lot, I recommend all to play this course in the fall.

3 of 3 people found this review helpful.

 Walked off the course!

1    5/16/2011   5/17/2011
Review By: joe po
Played: 70  Reviewed: 10  Exp: 14.3 Years
1 Helpful / 3 Not
Pros: Dual Pins - really appreciated that the course offers permanent dual pins. Short pin denoted by yellow Innova basket, long pins are Mach 3.

Course grounds were well maintained.

Park has a lot to offer (horseshoes, picnic shelters, etc.)

Scenic park.
Cons: Design of this course is a major problem.
The first 5 holes bored me to death. Plus, they are laid out so poorly. There so many baskets in this open area that it was confusing as to which hole had which pin.

Did not like the mando on 5, way to close to a busy highway.

The pond/river on 6,7, and 8 should not have been incorporated into the layout. Having to throw over that three times is retarded. In ball golf if you hit your ball into the water you lose a buck or two. I'm not risking my $14 disc on a stupid mud pond. Water is fine if its for asthetic purposes, but should never be used as a hazard in disc golf. Unless you can easily fish out your disc without getting soaked and muddy, waster is just dumb.

The fairways from 9 on were muddy and terribly difficult to play.

Walked off the course on #11

Signage - most signs were busted or missing information. Can't blame this on the course too much, it's the chumbalones out there who destroy courses, leave their trash everywhere, and make a bad name for those of us who take frolf seriously. However, if they are asking for a donation at the beginning of the course, they better upkeep the course so that it warrants a donation WHEN YOU FINISH THE ROUND.
Other Thoughts: Walked of the course because of its condition and overall poor design, Maybe it,s better in the late sumer once it dries out, or winter when all the damn water freezes.

Regardless, I wasn't impressed by this course at all.

Tried to go over to Calvary from here, but that course was ridculously packed with chumbalones.

If you are up in the Cloud area, go play Augusta/Hidden Lake. Championship caliber course with great features!

1 of 4 people found this review helpful.

 A Beauty - A Challenge

5+    8/29/2010   1/6/2011
Review By: Martin Dewgarita
Played: 1279  Reviewed: 93  Exp: 8.1 Years
2 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Amenities. Bathrooms, A shelter, Ample parking, Free(?) Camping on site.

Practice Basket.

Concrete Tees are all in good shape.

Multiple Pins. Each hole has alternate pin positions, significantly more difficult if they're in the long position, making for a very difficult course if they're all long.

Variety of Holes. 1-3 are relatively open allowing for some bombs, 4 is a tight fairway with a mando to protect the highway, 5 is a nice ace run, as is 6 and 7 with the significant challenge of the pond (friendly local kids may jump in the water for a few $), from there the course winds its way along a stream that often comes into play through a variety of doglegs (good balance of left and right) and some interesting elevation changes. Many holes have multiple lines to take, but require good technical accuracy to hit them.

Elevation. Nothing huge, but the course works well with what is there with some elevated pins and tees.

Navigation. Relatively intuitive, pay attention from 5 to 6, walk back past the parking lot to the opposite corner, makes for a good opportunity to pick up anything you may have forgotten in the car, or to grab your water discs, because you're going to need them.

Water. I've mentioned it a few times already, but specifically related to the water, it is used well, with some holes requiring you to throw over it, some pins just in front of it, and some holes play right along it. The water can be intimidating, but mostly is easy to retrieve discs from.

Clean and Not Crowded. I didn't have to contend with the crowds of the courses in the city, and it has always been relatively tidy and well kept.
Cons: Not beginner friendly. Long frustrating wooded holes and water to eat up plastic would have definitely been discouraging for me as a beginner.

Wet. In the spring and after a rain much of the low areas are swampy, my shoes often end up soaked by the end of the round, all of the water also results in thick bugs in the summer.
Other Thoughts: Just off the freeway I feel this is one of the better courses in the area, definitely make a stop here, makes a great compliment to the other St. Cloud area courses.

2 of 2 people found this review helpful.


1    10/15/2010   10/15/2010
Review By: Johnson
Played: 37  Reviewed: 13
0 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: Good variety, you kinda feel like you're playing in some unknown hardcore underground tournament. Very fun and challenging, merciless water hazards test your courage. Very technical.
Cons: First few holes are across a big field, kinda boring. Water hazards run rampant.
Other Thoughts: Worth playing if you have the balls. Watch out for the first hole on the other side of the parking lot, there is a huge water hazard that you can't see from the tee box.

0 of 2 people found this review helpful.

 Love the layout

2-4    6/19/2009   11/19/2009
Review By: sportsheros90
Played: 11  Reviewed: 10  Exp: 34.6 Years
0 Helpful / 3 Not
Pros: Great layout, lots of variety. Very pretty course to play. Well maintained, water in play, fairly easy to get around.
Cons: Signage sucks, confusing to start the round.
Other Thoughts: I love to play this course. Again, another one I wish was closer to my home.

0 of 3 people found this review helpful.


2-4    8/24/2011   9/5/2009
Review By: mndiscg
Played: 365  Reviewed: 358  Exp: 9.5 Years
This review was updated on 5/26/2012
1 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: -Rotating pin placements make it different and interesting all the time.
-Nice concrete tees on all holes.
-Signs on most holes which are mostly accurate (see cons)
-Some good blind tees on 6, 11 and 17 I can remember.
-Water is used well on holes 6-8 and later the stream is used a little bit.
-15 is a cool hole with the basket on a hill in the woods.
-Good risk/reward shots in the woods and with water.
-Solid 18 holes with little repetition.
-Challenging overall, not better for righty or lefty.
-Practice basket by the parking lot.
-Hole 4 is cool with the rows of trees and the mando that makes you throw down the row.
-Good bathrooms and parking at start.
-Camping on the course.

Cons: -Signs are made of weak plastic and some are broken completely or just enough to leave off some info.
-The sign for 10 is not updated. Holes with multiple pin locations only show one on the map so if the other one is up it can be confusing.
-The walk between 5 and 6 is ridiculous if you haven't played. I got lucky and stumbled upon the 6th tee across the parking lot. So after 5 walk past the practice basket and keep going til you see a tee which is 6.
-Lots of college students and other disc golfers here, could definitely get busy.
-Could lose discs kind of easy in water and woods. Tall grass off the fairways of non wooded holes.
Other Thoughts: Fun tourneys and leagues held here and at all the st cloud area courses. St. Cloud Disc Golf Association. Course asks for donation at beginning, it would be welcome for course improvements, particularly to the signs.

1 of 1 people found this review helpful.


5+    6/4/2009   6/8/2009
Review By: slash87
Played: 153  Reviewed: 18  Exp: 9.5 Years
1 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: This is the best course in the St Cloud Area right now. It starts with some open holes which lets you warm up. Then comes the water. If your not accurate yet be prepared to lay up short or risk losing a disc. The water is fairly clear but the bottom of the pond is mucky. The rest of the holes trees, elevation changes, dog legs, streams and distance.
Cons: Some players here are very rude by not letting smaller groups play through. It can be busy and whole one is hard to find without clear directions.

1 of 3 people found this review helpful.

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