Manchester, MO 
Paul A. Schroeder Park Share
Uploaded By: TheGoldenPutter Hole #5 (Taken 8/2012)
3 / 256ft. Par / Distance:
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 Nice n easy

1    9/5/2010   9/29/2010
Review By: mashnut
Played: 828  Reviewed: 775  Exp: 15.2 Years
2 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: The course plays on a grassy hillside with a few holes playing through the woods on either end of the course. This makes for a nice mix of park style holes with mature trees and wooded holes with tighter lines and brushy rough. There are some different shot shapes here, and the variety is helped by the elevation changes on nearly every hole adding fun and some challenge.

There are nice concrete pads that seemed pretty new and are still in great shape. The tee signs were really basic, but had enough info to make the course easy to follow without too much extra walking to figure out navigation or where to throw. The baskets are in pretty good shape and catch ok.
Cons: This is a pretty short and easy course overall. Many of the holes are easily reachable with a putter and don't offer much in the way of challenge. There are some safety issues here, with some holes playing very close to one another. Hole 6 is the worst offender, playing almost directly over hole 1's basket. There are some erosion issues, especially in the woods but around some of the baskets out in the open too, it's a tough thing to prevent when you have lots of people walking in the same hilly areas.
Other Thoughts: This isn't a spectacular course, but it's a quick and fun round that will at least work on some of your approach game. It's a nice place for a putter round, and a great place to bring newer players. The holes are reasonable lengths and the brush isn't so thick that you'll lose discs. More experienced players just won't find very much challenge here to keep them coming back. If you're in the area and want a quick, stress free round this is an ok course, otherwise there are lots of nicer places to play around St. Louis.

2 of 2 people found this review helpful.

 Very good for a quick 9

5+    8/15/2010   8/17/2010
Review By: dirtyrock
Played: 27  Reviewed: 2
This review was updated on 8/19/2010
2 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Great elevation changes, hills, valleys.
NEW CONCRETE PADS, on EVERY hole, as of 8/16/10
Much improved hole 4, new tee box at top of hill, now shooting through narrow wooded fairway over a wooded valley. Just shoot straight and low, your disc will skip up the hill directly at the basket, easy bird on one of the longer holes.
Cons: -only 9 holes, no alternate pads or pin placements.
-Hole 6 fairway crosses hole 1 green.
-Most holes are too short, could be a pro for some, putter practice, ace holes, beginners, etc.
-Fairly crowded, not too bad though.
-Pool next to course plays loud and terrible music.
Other Thoughts: Great practice course if you live nearby, not worth a trip out to this one, but I enjoy a quick round here.
Definitely a par 3 course, ignore posted pars.

2 of 2 people found this review helpful.


5+    7/12/2012   8/8/2010
Review By: birdman101
Played: 56  Reviewed: 23  Exp: 7.8 Years
This review was updated on 9/26/2012
1 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: concrete teepads on all holes, and new signs (already have graffiti on them)

quick rounds

all of the holes except holes 1, hole 6(residents near by complained of discs in their yard), and hole 9 (sleeve got messed up) have new pin placements and get moved back and forth on occasion. These placements add a little length and difficulty to the course

Course is well kept and usually in great shape.

Mulch has been added around the baskets and along some of the trails to deal with muddy areas.

Underbrush isn't too bad, so losing a disc is difficult

good use of mature trees and some elevation makes the course somewhat interesting. with the woods coming into play on 6 of the holes.
Cons: if all the pins are in the original position there isn't a whole lot of challenge

only 9 holes, but locals have alternate tees for (1,2,3,5,6,9) to add some variety

hole 7 is a little tight and throws can end up in some tall brush easily or could end up by 8 basket. And tee shots on 8 can end up on 7's fairway if you over throw the basket

the basket for 1 is basically in the fairway for hole 6, there is a mando on 6, but the sign got stolen, and people disregard it or miss it, or flip something too much so heads up around 1's basket if there are people on 6
Other Thoughts: This course can get very busy in the afternoons and weekends.

Local random doubles league is on tuesday nights at 5:30

1 of 3 people found this review helpful.

 Decent 9 Hole

5+    5/2/2012   10/19/2009
Review By: jartiv
Played: 4  Reviewed: 4  Exp: 12.1 Years
This review was updated on 5/4/2012
5 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: - great elevation use
- tight wooded holes
- overall great variety of shots
- Softball fields within walking distance (other side of park) where you can practice your drives.

UPDATE 5.2.2012 - giving the course a half star upgrade.

-Tees seem to be brand new.
-Maps on tees are very helpful.
Cons: - 1, 6, and 9 seem to be dangerously close to one another... keep your head up when playing these holes.
Other Thoughts: This was the very first course I ever played disc golf on. I also got my first Ace on hole 1 here. The park also includes a public pool, tennis courts, basketball courts, sand volleyball courts, a playground, and a pair of softball fields. Needless to say, this park has a lot of teen traffic. Pranksters seem to have their way with Schroeder and it is no wonder why the locals are not huge fans of the course.

Apart from that, this course/park is a great place to learn disc golf. Lightly - heavily wooded holes can teach a disc golfer all sorts of shots that will translate well on many courses. Elevation changes present formidable challenges for all throwers.

UPDATE 5.2.2012

Tees have been vastly upgraded, and it seems the course is cleaner than ever. This seems to have made the course way more popular and therefore way more crowded - I will say that everyone I encountered had great etiquette and was very polite. Also the park office now sells discs when it is open. I am upgrading my initial rating of 2.5 to 3. Reason I don't think it is any higher is because the criss cross of 1 - 6 - 9 still bothers me, and the fact that it is in the end just 9 holes.

5 of 5 people found this review helpful.

 Won't hold the average player's interest

1    7/29/2009   7/29/2009
Review By: Adgeri
Played: 6  Reviewed: 6  Exp: 8.9 Years
4 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: You can easily play a round in half an hour or so.
Cons: The pars are ridiculously high (I shot nine under in my first round). There was really only one hole where you can really unleash your power without over-driving the basket. There were a few paths that looked like they should be followed in the wooded area that did not lead to the next hole. It was hard to tell (as a first timer at the course) exactly where to go after each hole as a number of tee boxes are visible but there are no signs pointing the direction of the next in the order. The tee boxes were in poor condition as well. On one hole you almost have to shoot over/around the basket for the first hole to get to the current hole's basket.
Other Thoughts: This should certainly be a par three course. The signs at the boxes need to be updated to provide accurate information.

4 of 6 people found this review helpful.

 solid but not great

5+    12/25/2008   12/25/2008
Review By: FENTONflyer
Played: 9  Reviewed: 6  Exp: 10 Years
6 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: This course is short and quick. If you are looking for a couple of quick solid rounds come here. At this course you are able to practice on throwing your putter 150+ feet because you really only need a putter for this course, possibly a mid-range. This course has a lot of possibilities for aces.
Cons: The course is possibly too short. Also in fall and in winter it is very possible to lose track of a disc due to the woods.
Other Thoughts: I really like this course for a quick fix when i get the urge to play disc golf. Hole 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, and 8 are all possibilities for aces. If you are looking for a hard course this is not it but if you are looking for an easy confidence builder this is it.

6 of 8 people found this review helpful.

 Just Bad

1    11/27/2008   12/2/2008
Review By: REDARMY
Played: 40  Reviewed: 29  Exp: 9 Years
This review was updated on 10/2/2009
5 Helpful / 3 Not
Pros: Cool layout that makes good use of the land given. Good mix of heavily and lightly-wooded shots. Elevation changes along the course are also nicely implemented.

The holes are so close together and short, you can play this course in well under an hour.

Great place to get newbies familiar with disc golfing.
Cons: Missing markers for tee pads

The course map at hole 4's tee sign points you in the completely wrong direction to get to 5. Myself and my buddy spent 20 minutes wandering through the forest before we found the path to 5.

Two baskets marked hole #7 (the righteous 7 and the basket for 8 was marked as 7)

Pars are GROSSLY overestimated. Hole 4 is a short uphill shot (less than 250 at best), and I holed out in 2. An eagle on a hole less than 300' feet??? I shot -8 for the round, for 9 holes, and it was the first time i've played there! Come on!?!?!

The other, much larger half of the park, is just being wasted.
Other Thoughts: Another 9 holes, competent par determinations and adequate markings for tees/pins/next pin location could make this a respectable course.

As it stands, this place is an atrocity for any but the newest players.

5 of 8 people found this review helpful.

 Just a note

1    5/8/2008   11/16/2008
Review By: Brokensaint
Played: 247  Reviewed: 31  Exp: 9.6 Years
3 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: Just an addendum, really, to the other reviews, which seem to sum up my thoughts on this course. I recommend playing Bluebird, Schroeder and Watson trails all in one day. They are close to one another (about 10-15 minutes), they are all 9 holes, and all have their strong points. The more they are played, the more attention they will receive.

3 of 5 people found this review helpful.


5+    8/31/2008   8/31/2008
Review By: Three Putt
Played: 132  Reviewed: 84  Exp: 22.4 Years
This review was updated on 9/21/2009
11 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Schroeder Park is a pretty basic course. There are two uphill shots, three elevated tees, three heavily wooded shots and enough trees on the rest of the shots that you can easily hit one. All of the shots are in 180 ft-300ft range, so every hole is deuceable. It is not a championship course or a place where you can really air it out, but you can have a good time here.
Cons: The tees are bad. A lot of them are not level, and the tee sign for # 4 is in the middle of the tee. They have spread woodchips to keep them from washing out, but they are not good. There used to be multiple tees, but currently I can only find one set of marked tees.
There has been a long-standing dispute with the homeowners across the street for holes # 5 & # 6. They campaign to have the course removed on a regular basis. This spring both of those holes were moved up the hill to move them away from those homes, and as a result the tee for # 5 is dangerously close to the basket for # 2 and the fairway for # 6 runs needlessly close to the pin for # 1. # 8 is less than 200 ft with an elevated tee, and it is hard to throw that short from an elevated tee. The basket for # 6 is actually the original placement for # 8, but when # 6 was moved # 8 was shortened. If the course is not busy, I'll still shoot at # 6's basket as it makes for a much better shot than the actual basket.
The course itself is hidden behind a big aquatic park and hard to find if you don't know where to look. Once you play # 1, you can see holes in both directions with nothing to indicate which way to go, so a new visitor may end up wandering around. Hole # 4 shoots up a hill, and once you are done there is nowhere to go but right back down the fairway to get to # 5. It would be pretty easy to get lost at that point also.
Other Thoughts: This course was the first original course design by Dave McCormack of Gateway Disc Sports. The course was actually designed and installed for free to help build the GDS course design resume. For a short time the relationship with the City of Manchester and the local disc golf community was very good, and an expanded 18 hole layout was used here in for the 1997 & 1998 Gateway Open. That layout featured many heavily wooded holes and was a tournament-quality course. There was talk of that layout becoming a permanent 18 hole course, but problems with the behavior of some disc golfers quickly dashed those hopes. Nothing has been done to improve this course since it was installed, but it has survived repeated attacks by the neighbors to have the course removed.
As is stands there is no reason to go out of your way to visit this course. However if you are in West St. Louis County you can combine this course with the 9 holes at Bluebird Park (about 10 minutes to the West) and have an enjoyable day of disc golf. It may not be a championship-type course, but if every town in the US had a course like Schroeder Park disc golf would be in good shape.

11 of 12 people found this review helpful.

 Nice, 9 holer

1    8/24/2008   8/25/2008
Review By: Purple Dog
Played: 5  Reviewed: 5
7 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Fun layout and nice location. The course is situated on a hillside, which makes for some interesting shots. It has a nice mix of holes and the grounds are generally well maintained. My wife and daughter loved it.

The tee pads have been covered with wood chips and that really helps with the erosion problem mentioned above. And some of the wooded holes are also covered with woodchips, so they don't get muddy when it rains.
Cons: It's hard to find some of the holes. The maps on the tee boxes are inaccurate, so they're basically worthless.
Other Thoughts: I don't think I ever found hole 6. We ended up playing the hole 8 basket instead.

7 of 7 people found this review helpful.

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