Short and tight
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Pros: This course has nice tee pads, interesting pin locations, and sits nestled in the foothills of the mountains.
Hole 6 especially has a nice tee shot with the mountains in the background.
Most tee shots on this course require a steady hand as the "fairways" are almost non existent. It's a nice course to test your shot accuracy and it is super rewarding when the shot you envision in your heads leads you to threading the needle of a tight fairway (of which there are many)
Baskets are in great shape and all are numbered on the top except 18.
There are some really cool bridges that have been built across a dry creek bed that make for fun transitions from a few holes.
Cons: I couldn't help but thinking some of these holes could really benefit from removing just a few trees to help create an actual pathway to the hole. I'm not envisioning wide open fairways, but just a small crease in the trees to aim for. As it was, several holes required that you throw up and over low lying pines which is not terrible once or twice, but this course has more than 10 holes like that.
Other Thoughts: This is a relatively short course, but still has a decent number of blind shots (lots of trees obscuring pin locations). It's a nice play to hit up if you are traveling through the Salida / Poncha Springs area.
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Pros: great double chain baskets
perfect condition tee pads made out of cement
good diversity of lengths
Cons: really steep holes
some holes do not have signs
hard to find tee pads
some holes are super far
not good paths
Other Thoughts: great course
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3 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: 1) Pretty country
2) Concrete T-Pads
3) Nice use of elevation changes
4) Due to the shape of the T-Pads it was easy to know which end was the front.
Cons: 1) Way too many blind shots. If walking down a fairway to find a basket, then walking back to the T-Box to throw, then walking down the fairway again to find your disc is your thing, then you will love this course.
2) No clear fairway to hole from T-Pad on most holes
3) No signage as to where the next T-Pad is after finishing a hole. Picking the most traveled path doesn't always lead to the next T-Pad. If you could see a T-Pad sign from a basket, it was probably the correct one. However, you won't know until you walk up to the sign because almost all times you would be looking at the back of the sign.
4) T-Pad signs were often wrong as to distance and pin placement.
5) Way too many trees. Shots that look great off the T-Box are often hard to find as they disappeared from view during flight.
6) Trees were not limbed and branches were very low to the ground. This made it impossible to throw from where a disc came to lie even though it was under a tree along the so called fairway.
7) The best route on almost every hole was an overhead shot (thumber or tomahawk) as it eliminated the trees. However, it made finding discs more difficult.
Other Thoughts: It's possible that the designers and maintainers of this course are restricted from removing and limbing trees. If so, that's unfortunate because this course has great potential.
Most of the Pros and Cons I mentioned have been mentioned by others. I just wanted everyone to know they are true.
A good course should be easy to follow for people who have never been there. This course does not meet that criteria.
Our group that played the course (all new to the course) unanimously agreed that we probably won't return unless a lot of our cons are fixed.
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Did You See That?
Pros: This is a really interesting course that has plenty of challenge. The terrain for this course is simply amazing. The course is tucked in a very beautiful part of the world and the elevation and natural plant life is well used. Every hole has its own little challenge to it. There are plenty of short holes to make it fun for everyone and a few nice long holes, especially at the start and finish of this course. The cement tee pads were very nice. Tee signs were helpful on many occasions. Someone even took the time with the tee signs to write on new placements, making some baskets more findable. There was a nice course map posted near the parking lot and hole 1. There is also a lost and found there. There did appear to be a very nice campground right across the stream from the course and there was even a pedestrian bridge that connected the campground to the course near hole 4.
Cons: There are so many blind shots on this course that often, even when you think you know where your disc landed, it might take a while to find. Playing the course for the first time meant having to take several walks off the tee pad to find baskets on just about every hole. There were a few navigational issues that made having a map a good idea. There are a couple of long walks between holes and a few holes that play very close to each other. There really is not much length to this course. There is some rough terrain making it somewhat dangerous to simply walk at times. The parking lot seemed to be a logical landing place for bad shots on a few holes. Hole 18 was missing both the actual sign at the tee pad and the number plate on top of the basket. The B pin for hole 2 was nearly impossible to find.
Other Thoughts: You will want a map, someone who has played the course before, water and at least sturdy walking shoes if not hiking boots to play this course. There were so many blind shots that it got a little ridiculous at times. That being said, and in spite of the short nature of this course, I had a lot of fun playing this course. Even the first time disc golfer that was playing with me during my round enjoyed the course. Be sure to spot on just about every hole. The few times I did not have a spotter I usually ended up wishing that I did. There are simply so many trees that you cannot see everything from the tee pad. Maybe this is not a course that I would drive out of my way to play, but if you are in the area it is certainly a must play. Be sure to follow directions to the course very carefully. While I was not driving, I and fairly certain that my GPS would have had a tough time getting me to this course. Have I mentioned that you will want a spotter on most holes? You really will want one.
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Very nice course, but...
Pros: Excellent tapered concrete tee pads, signage, and baskets. Many tee signs include the direction to the next hole which is useful as some holes are not where you would expect them to be. Good paths exist from hole-to-hole.
Adequate parking lot with Porta-potty.
Course is on a nice piece of land that is covered with smallish (15'-25') pines. One edge of the course is defined by a creek that is down a steep slope. A couple of baskets sit at the top of the slope, so a careful drive/approach is prudent to keep your disc up near the basket.
Though short (only two holes over 300'), the extensive tree cover hides most of the baskets from the tee. Fairways have been created for each hole, and they are tight and challenging.
I cannot decide if the following is a Pro or a Con: While the fairways present real challenge, the height of the trees makes it possible to throw a high shot (Spike Hyzer, Overhand, etc.) at every hole. While knowing exactly where the basket sits within the trees still presents some challenge, dropping a drive in near the basket is a possibility on each hole.
If you want to shoot the lowest possible score, ignore the fairways and throw over the trees. If you want to work on technique and shot-shaping use the fairways. Interesting choice...
Cons: As noted above, throwing over the trees is possible on each hole. If you play it this way, the holes become very similar.
Since you cannot see most baskets from the tee, it is possible to throw on someone without realizing it. Hole 18 is 370' and blind drives toward the driveway/parking area. It seems that this hole in particular presents a possibility of throwing at another player.
Other Thoughts: First time out it helps to bring someone to go ahead and locate baskets, spot drives, etc.
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Pros: Great surroundings, good equipment, and well groomed--somebody loves this course! The signs were excellent and the paths were well marked.
Cons: Too short but a good use of the land. A bunch of blind shots slowed down the round due to sneak peaks.
Other Thoughts: Shot 6 down and should have been double digits down. Needs to be streched out. Overall a very nice place to spend an hour throwing a round.
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Watch Out for that Tree
Pros: -Baskets that are in great shape and catch very well.
-Concrete tee-pads on every hole
-The tee-signs are in great shape and tell you the distance of the hole and show a detailed layout of the hole.
-The course is very heavily wooded with some tight lines through the trees, but the lines on the holes never feel unfair.
-The course requires a lot of accuracy in order to score well.
-The thick trees on the holes punish you for bad shots.
-Course is pretty easy to navigate and you won't spend very much time looking for the next hole. The first hole is slightly confusing to find but just look at the map at the beginning of the course and you will find it easily.
-Map and practice basket at the beginning of the course.
-Small trash cans attached to many of the tee-sign posts.
-This course doesn't get very crowded. We played it on Memorial Day weekend and we only had to wait on people for 2 holes.
-There are quite a few ace opportunities on this course if you can throw accurately
-Several of the holes have multiple pin placements
-Lots of elevation change, with many of the holes incorporating at least some uphill or downhill.
-While most of the holes on this course are quite short, they are still fun and challenging and make you think about the line you want to throw.
-Brooms located on some of the tee-pads to sweep them off if they get dusty.
-The land this course is set on has very few other activities going on in it, so you don't have to worry about other park users getting in your way.
-Very easy to access off HWY285 if you need a break while traveling.
Cons: -Holes are very short. Most of the holes are under 250 ft, with only two holes over 300 feet. Additionally, since quite a few of the holes play downhill, the holes play shorter than there listed distance. If you like courses that let you grip and rip it on every hole, this is not the course for you.
-Lots of the holes play really close to each other and some cross over each other a little bit, so keep an on incoming discs if there are any other players near you.
-Trees are short enough that on a lot of holes stronger armed players can throw over the trees reducing some of the tighter lines on the course.
-Trees can eat discs and there are several spots where you could lose a disc. A few of the holes play near the river, which can be slightly overgrown. Hole 17 also has a water tower area fenced off by barbed wire that a disc could be lost in, but there is a number on the fence to call to retrieve your disc if it goes over the fence.
-The baskets are not visible from many tee-pads so at times, you might be walking up the fairway to see exactly where the basket is.
-The tee-pads are pretty small and it would be nice if they were slightly bigger.
Other Thoughts: This is a great course that requires a lot of accuracy to score well on. I wish some of the holes were longer, but if you are in the area make sure you give this course a try.
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Poncha packs a punch!
Pros: This cozy Colorado course is easily found off the 285 Highway into Poncha Springs. 18 holes in a town of 742 (wow!) with multiple pin positions, a "full-size spare" (practice basket), excellent concrete teepads that are not slippery, seating at many holes, tee signs, facilities on site, seclusion just a mile from town....this place is truly a gem situated at the "Crossroads of the Rockies"
Cons: A bit short for the most part, but alternate pin placements have helped extend the original layout. The trees here eat up discs, but they aren't too tall and the course is short enough to where the tight lines through the trees are very risk/reward sometimes. As short courses go, you'll be hard pressed to find a funner one.
Other Thoughts: This course is in a great American small town that is very supportive of disc golf and outdoor recreation in general. I have played more than a hundred courses now and this may be the cleanest. Locals are respectful and courteous and the course is very well maintained, even featuring brooms at most tee pads!
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Pros: Has a lot of technical shots and good pin placements. It appears there are multiple pin placements on some holes although I have played a dozen times or so and they are in the same spot. Good use of elevation and natural landscape.
Cons: Short and super rocky in most places that will eat you discs up fast. Tons of cactus.
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Technical, Tight, & Fun
Pros: Poncha Springs is very unique for a mountain-style course in Colorado. Most of the holes are fairly short (many holes under 200, most holes between 200-300), and all of the holes are extremely wooded. This course is very technical as around 13 out of 18 holes are in VERY thick trees. The trees are thick... but the lines are there. If you enjoy practicing short technical lines, this is a fantastic course. Many putter/midrange throws requiring large amounts of accuracy, usually resulting in a steep hill or thick trees if you miss your mark. There is a fair amount of elevation change, as the course uses the natural contours of the land very well. You will be throwing up, down, near a river, and next to a cliff. The river is helpful as this area gets very hot, and the river can provide a nice breeze to sit down.
I greatly enjoy this course to work on my birdie game, and shoot for an ace. If you know where the pin is, 90% of the holes on this course are aceable. There are even a few shots that are easy aces, and it can be seen as many people have signed the back of the signs at the tee box. The tight windows keep you on your toes, and there is usually more than one route to pick, making it ideal for working on your game. If you play one round here, you will throw a fair amount of throws in your bag. If you throw every line here, you will throw everything in your bag (not including all bombers... however there are 2 long holes). It's hard to call this course easy because small mistakes and make large differences, but if you are a skilled discer you should be shooting for a few over par-par your first time here.
This course is a fairly quick 18 if you are in good hiking shape. For those from lower elevations, it may take a bit longer, but since the course is so short in distance, a quick round can take 40 minutes. Expect to be looking for a few discs here, as many times your disc will disappear behind trees far before it hits the ground.
The course has shown effort to place benches at every hole. Most of them are very primitive, made of rocks or stumps and some are very uneven. To me, it's the effort that counts though. The benches are at 50% or more of the holes, and while they may not be perfect, they are something to sit on.
Cons: The first and major issue I have with this course is the tree height. While every hole has technical lines that eventually lead to the pin, it is possible on almost every hole (about 85%) to throw above/over the trees and land your disc close to the hole. This is just to say that if you're shooting for a great score, it is usually easier to bypass the trees and throw a nice high shot. That being said if you're looking to shoot and have a fun round, the technical lines through the trees are the way to go. They are tight, tough, require high levels of precision, and are super fun.
While every hole has a sign denoting distance (which I heard from locals are usually incorrect), the signs do not mark the best routes to the pin. This can be a major disadvantage as 85% of the holes on this course are blind. It is truly a "play two times" course... because even if you scout every hole the first time, it is very hard to pick the best route, and often the trees are so thick its hard to remember EXACTLY where the pin is.
To elaborate on this, simply finding the directions from hole to hole can sometimes be an issue here. I highly advise bringing a map, and remember that the map provided is a "loose estimate", and you should always be looking in the general area the map points you in. Many holes criss-cross and take long detours which can be very confusing for a first timer.
Many holes also come very close to intersecting one another, as this course squeezes 18 holes into a fairly small plot of land. Since there are so many trees everywhere, it is nearly impossible to see more than 100 feet ahead, so bad shots can come flying in from other holes at any time. Beware of this! That being said, not too many non-locals play here, so not too many strays discs will find their way to you.
Other Thoughts: If you plan on coming here, I would plan on playing two rounds. One to familiarize, and one to shoot for a quality score. It is a very fun course, but the fact that nearly every hole can be overpassed with a tomahawk or high RHFH/RHBH was a tad bit annoying. If you go in knowing what to expect, this is a quality course to keep it low, work on your game, and pump out a few fun, short rounds. This place can get hot!... but if you're in the area and like technical courses (and like getting aces), this is a must see. While I did muster up many cons, this place was super fun and I would definitely return if I was in the area.
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