Kansas City, KS 
Rosedale Park - Down Under Share
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 A Mental Workout

2-4    3/21/2007   3/21/2011
Review By: cefire
Played: 673  Reviewed: 134  Exp: 19.4 Years
12 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: While not very long at all by the standards of any of the neighboring courses, Down Under makes up for its lack of length with an extreme test of your accuracy, patience, and emotion-control. You will hit some trees and you will likely get frustrated at some points with no open hole outlets for venting. This course asks if you can keep it cool, under-control and throw with patience and touch even after that nasty kick or roll-away from the green. This is also a course you really have to get to 'know' - with all of the little dropoffs, sideslopes, and multiple route fairways, you have to learn what shots produce the best outcomes over the long-run. As other reviewers have stated, the tricky pins and severe elevation changes force players to learn the consequences of improper landing angles and speeds.
Cons: The tee pads are probably the biggest bummer out here. With quite a bit of play, they are rutted in some places and after it rains they are very muddy. Even just a small strip of concrete for the final plant foot would probably go a long ways - the holes are so short that long run-ups are often unneccessary.
Other Thoughts: With so many great courses in KC, it is hard to recommend this one as a first pick but it certainly is worth a trip for a vastly different experience from that you get from the traditional KC courses like Waterworks and Swope - So don't overlook 'Down Under'!

12 of 13 people found this review helpful.


5+    10/24/2010   10/26/2010
Review By: wraithman
Played: 34  Reviewed: 8  Exp: 9.4 Years
This review was updated on 9/22/2013
3 Helpful / 3 Not
Pros: Probably the most accuracy course i've ever played. You can get to each basket but you have to know the trees. Each hole is relatively short but you have about 40 trees to deal with each hole. The baskets are bright orange and yellow so you can see them through the thickness. Some holes have an alternative tee box. Each hole has trash cans and most with wooded benches. Each hole has multiple pin selections. Most days it is wind free due to the immense tree canopy. Usually not too busy
Cons: Some of the holes have drop offs that can leave you throwing from the bottom of a hill. They do need some better tee pads. Most are tiny gravel or packed dirt. Bring a towel if it rains it will get your disc will get muddy. The signage is not the greatest and they have no real indication of where the pins are, both placement and distance. Do not wear flip flops!. you will regret this choice immediately. Not for the out of shape. Lost of hills and rocky terrain along the back 9 . Not getting any tree love.
Other Thoughts: My favorite course in Kansas CIty. Really lets you know where your game is as far as accuracy. Play it weekly

3 of 6 people found this review helpful.


1    8/22/2010   8/25/2010
Review By: DriveCrusher2
Played: 40  Reviewed: 13  Exp: 10 Years
2 Helpful / 3 Not
Pros: This thing was wicked, it tested every bit of my game and every shot had to be very very very accurate, there were no repeat shots, every hole was unique, especially 13 or 14 i don't really remember which one exactly because it went straight up hill, terrain changes, elevation changes, mixed with some short and long holes, great course i would like to play again.
Cons: Dirt tee pads, and the course was very hard to navigate, we ended up playing to basket 18 from the 11 tee and hole 18 finishes inside the woods which is like ok... how do we get out of here. when we found a path we ended up in the fairway for hole 5 on the top course and had discs flying at us, not cool
Other Thoughts: no other thoughts good park, like having 2 courses to play there, and it is a must play park both top and bottom

2 of 5 people found this review helpful.

 Favorite Kansas City Course

5+    8/10/2010   8/13/2010
Review By: jayhawker737
Played: 52  Reviewed: 41  Exp: 9.7 Years
This review was updated on 1/3/2013
3 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: A great testing grounds for your accuracy game.
Though there are many trees, if you are truly accurate, you will be able to avoid a lot of trouble that comes in the form of trees and cliffs.
Another pro is how the course changes as the seasons change.
Once you get the hang of the course, shooting a low round is a great possibility. This was my first under par round!
Its a good place to get away from the hot sun too!
Cons: If you are not accurate, you will run into some bad luck with hitting trees, because they are there on purpose.
Be careful about your disc choice if you want to lay up, make sure its gonna land flat, or your disc might roll down a hill. Though on a positive note, you could find some other discs too.
Other Thoughts: This is my favorite course out of all the courses in Kansas City.
Its a combination of a technical and mental game.
Its also a cool, quite literally, course in that you are in the shade a good amount.
No matter your skill level, come out and play! Just watch your disc until it stops moving for good.

3 of 4 people found this review helpful.

 Leave Your Driver at Home

1    7/22/2010   8/1/2010
Review By: odysseus81
Played: 96  Reviewed: 35  Exp: 21.4 Years
8 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: This course is a blast to play. It has a great combination of wooded plus elevation changes. There are a number of very memorable and unique holes. Most tee shots require serious accuracy, but very few require distance. I don't know that I threw much more than a buzz but maybe a handful of times throughout the round. It is a nice change of pace from the many courses in KC the require a big arm for low scores. It is a super unique setup here. I love that someone used "unusable" land around the park to make something great out of it.

To get there, just head to the woods line to right of 1's fairway and there is a drop off into the woods very near 1's basket. It would have taken me a while to find it if a local hadn't pointed me in the right direction.

The orange baskets are awesome! They make it so easy to locate your target off the tee. They also grap discs really well. Better than most I have played on. They are very similar to the Titans. The course appears to be very well maintained. I didn't notice any trash out there to speak of.

I didn't get the same impression that others noted about most of the holes being anhyzer shots off the tee. Maybe it was just where the baskets were situated when I played, but I thought there was quite a bit of variety, knowing that the whole course plays in the woods. The elevation changes were enough to give plenty of variety.
Cons: There are definitely a few places on the course that are confusing if you haven't played out there before. I had a local that was out playing that I jumped in with, which saved my bacon but I would have been in trouble otherwise. Please note that this is only in a couple of places. For the most part it flows seamlessly....but where it is confusing, it is quite confusing. The tee signs could be better, but I didn't feel like I needed them because you can spot the basket easily from 90% of the holes.
Other Thoughts: This was a ton of fun and I look forward to revisiting next time I am in KC. The reason I gave it a 4 instead of higher is simply because for me, to go beyond a 4 the course needs more variety beyond just wooded holes. While I feel like there was plenty of variety for a wooded course, to take a course to the next level (in my mind) it needs a greater variety of shots. That is not a diss at all. The course does what it does very well and I loved it.

8 of 9 people found this review helpful.

 One of the Best in KC!!!

1    7/8/2010   7/17/2010
Review By: eye-ball-sac
Played: 67  Reviewed: 46  Exp: 9.6 Years
This review was updated on 2/19/2011
5 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: This course is located in the valleys of the other course in Rosedale Park. There are amazing elevation changes. Lots of natural beauty in there. Baskets are very visible and are in great condition. Lots of fun holes. Very technical...lots of shade a virtually no wind. Navigation is ok. There are next tee signs, but sometimes it leads you to a steep, unsafe slope which makes you wonder if you are going the right way. Tee pads are gravel, but you wont need more than 2 steps of run-up. Benches at most holes.
Cons: Tee signs are pretty bad. Just a laminated piece of paper stapled onto a tree. Course gets very muddy and doesn't drain well. You have to cross the number one fairway of the top course to get to the down under. 17 basket to 18 tee crosses right through 10's fairway making it unsafe. missing a put might mean your putter rolling down to the deep, dark pits of the places even lower than the down under. Holes got a little repetitive. Almost all of them were 200-250 with a slight dogleg right.
Other Thoughts: There was a memorial for someone on one of the holes with some discs which I guess were his. I was surprised it wasn't disturbed at all. My favorite hole was number 11. You tee off from an elevated tee over a valley to another hill about 250ft. away. I left my disc on a bench that had my number on it. Someone called me and told me they would take it to disc golf world. I went there about a week later and they said no one had come by with my disc. I'm not sure if all locals are like that, but that experience left me a little irritated with KC locals.

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5 of 6 people found this review helpful.

 A fun hike

1    6/5/2010   6/13/2010
Review By: Hector Chain
Played: 194  Reviewed: 188  Exp: 10.4 Years
This review was updated on 11/27/2011
5 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: This is the kind of course that tells you how accurate you are. If you can throw a straight 200-foot shot, there is no hole that is tough to par. But if you come in and try to fire your Boss down the fairway, you might be in for a rude awakening. This course is a blast. The elevation can be dramatic for as short as the holes are, so you may have a hole 200 feet long and 30 feet up or down. The fairways are all reasonable and get you to focus on controlled shots. The trees can be thick off of the fairways and will punish errant shots. The bright orange baskets are the most visible baskets I've ever seen. There are 3-4 basket positions on each hole from what I can tell. Downhill shots on courses like these are some of the most fun shots in disc golf. Although most of the tees were natural, they were in good shape, and you won't be needing much of a run-up on these tees anyway.
Cons: There are three main cons:
1. Tee shot repetition. Most of the holes were dogleg right, heavily favoring forehand players or lefties. I liked having to work my turnover shot, but it got a little boring hole after hole. Only two holes called for hyzer shots.

2. Signage. There are laminated signs nailed to trees, but not on every hole. And they only show one hole position, although there are at least three positions on each hole (the signs showed wrong positions on numerous holes). That didn't help on the holes where you couldn't see the basket from the tee. And it's a little annoying to read that the hole is 225 feet long and then see that the position being used is actually 275 feet from the tee.

3. Course design: One one hole (#16?) I was about to tee off when two players walked across the fairway. You have to cross that fairway to get from 17 to 18. Not safe. A couple other holes required you to pass very close to the basket from another hole to get to the next tee. Also, despite some "Next Tee" signs with arrows, navigation wasn't always easy here. At one point we started down a fairly unsafe slope before realizing we'd gone too far and hadn't turned left to get to the #17 tee. Need some stairs or tiers there and much better signs.
Other Thoughts: The fun factor here is high. You'll never throw the same second shot here, and the big uphill and downhill shots are great. It's great to have a course like this as a counterpoint to wide open grip-and-rip courses. I didn't get to play the up top course, but the Kansas City disc golf community should be proud of creating this course in the woods.

5 of 6 people found this review helpful.

 Crikey, This Place Rocks Mate!

1    4/28/2010   5/10/2010
Review By: Donovan
Played: 239  Reviewed: 186  Exp: 31.6 Years
10 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: This is hands down the most fun I have ever had playing Disc Golf to date (120 courses played at the time of this review). There are so many exciting to throw holes on this course I don't even know where to start. The title of this course is perfect. This course is literally down the outer rim of the giant hill below the trees that surround the other Rosedale course. There is risk/reward, huge elevation, water, LOTS of old trees, great layout, and you are as secluded from the world above as well as non-disc golfers.

There are some beautiful holes over valleys and creeks. If you love technical holes, this is the place for you. I don't think there was a single hole that didn't require accuracy of some sort from the tee box. Some of the tee areas not only have nice concrete pads, but they have some natural seating as well. I love that many of these holes have a drop off right next to the hole. They are dramatic enough to test your guts, but seem to get hung up on vegetation eventually. ;) The baskets are a great hunter orange color and in great shape. You can see these things a long way off. There's not much variety in hole length here, but with all the obstacles and routes, it is not really a noticeable flaw. One last thing is the temperature here. It is a couple degrees cooler down here with all the shade and vegetation.
Cons: There are only a few tee signs up and they are not permanent signs. They are great signs, but laminated card stock signs won't last too long. The tee pads were of a dirt/gravel mix and although they were not bad, they certainly were not giving you the best stable footing. Navigation was really tough. I brought the map, but ended up lucky enough to join a group of guides. I would certainly need help a couple more times to get the hang of this place. You will want bright colored disc and will want to play here when it is fairly light out. It can get dark down here. You cannot play down here when it is muddy as it would be miserable under wet and sloppy conditions. Those are the only negatives I can think of.
Other Thoughts: It was hard not to give this course a 5, because the Fun Factor was the best yet for me. I rate more for the fun factor than anything else. However, the few negatives that I listed do affect everyone who comes and plays here except the locals. I really think that this is the place I would stop by and play each time I visit the area. Come to think of it, it would actually be tough not to play here a couple of times upon each visit. ;)

10 of 12 people found this review helpful.

 Perfectly Fills the Niche for a Technical Woods Course in KC

2-4    10/2/2009   10/18/2009
Review By: Olorin
Played: 393  Reviewed: 115  Exp: 39.4 Years
This review was updated on 10/19/2009
14 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Design and Terrain:
*This course perfectly fills the niche for a technical woods course in the overall KC disc golf scene. It's a fantastic change of pace from the other long, relatively open courses in the area; it's the antipodes of Blue Valley. I really like the terrain! You feel like you're secluded, in the woods, away in nature. (But I'm from wooded NC.) There are also rugged rocks and some peaceful paths.
The course plays along the side of a big steep hill, so on some holes if you go off the fairway you're down a very steep slope in thick woods. Good luck getting back in play! That strongly heightens my "Apprehension of Danger" while standing on the tee pad. I often threw softer shots just to do my best to stay in play. Even when my disc took a sickening kick off a tree and went down the hill I enjoyed the challenge of trying to salvage the hole.
*There's very good elevation variety, including several Down-Up ravines and Up-Down holes. (6 Flat/ 5 Up/ 7 Down). There are more elevation changes on the back 9, including hole 16 that is a classic +38 ft uphill on a short 160 ft hole! The front 9 has 5 flat holes while the back 9 only has one.

*Baskets- The fluorescent Disc King baskets are the bomb! They're neon orange with fluorescent green poles, so they're much easier to spot in the woods than any other plain baskets I've ever seen. For me, these baskets significantly upgraded the course.
*Navigation- layout maps on the tee signs and small orange "Next tee" arrows make it pretty easy to find your way around.

*A clear and useful map is available online.
Cons: Basics
-Tee signs: They got much better after the PDGA Worlds in 2009, but they're still just laminated 8 x 11 paper stapled to trees. They're adequate, but they could be even better.
-Tees: It would be really hard, maybe impossible, but it would be great to have concrete tees. The dirt tees were fine, but I think they'll get muddy when it's wet. Even rubber mats would be an improvement.

-There's not enough fairway shape variety; straight and dog leg rights predominate. (9 St/ 1 Lt/ 8 Rt)
Other Thoughts: Course Level = White (most suited for Intermediate players rated 875-925)

You be the judge-
My favorite hole: 8. You shoot to a peninsula with a big drop on the right side.

The holes are rather short with the majority being 200-280 (5 of 160-199/ 12 of 200-280/ 1 of 300), but the heavy woods make it play longer. Shorter throwers (like me) will probably like this more than the big arms, plus there are no open holes to just let it fly anyway. Birdies, and even aces, are a tantalizing possibility if you can avoid hitting a tree!

It may just be me, but I've been to Rosedale 3 times now and I always feel like the course is in a kind of shady area that doesn't feel completely safe. I'm wary of being there when it's dark. I got there right before sunrise, and because of the isolation on the Down Under course I felt extra cautious playing by myself. I've never had any problems, so there may not be any basis in reality, but that's how I feel there.

I enjoyed Down Under more than the regular course, so if I had limited time and could only play one I'd definitely play Down Under. I've played almost all of the KC area courses and Down Under is currently my 2nd favorite in this area. The course is such a great change of pace from all the others in KC. If you live nearby you need to play this course to work on your accuracy, and if you're from out of town it's well worth a visit.

NOTE: Look in the "Links/Files" section for my files with Hole-by-hole evaluations, and a more detailed Overall review. You can also read more of my reviews and rating notes at the Yahoo Group, DG Course Reviews

14 of 15 people found this review helpful.

 Awesome challenge

1    2/7/2009   10/15/2009
Review By: beaker
Played: 13  Reviewed: 8  Exp: 14.4 Years
0 Helpful / 4 Not
Pros: Amazing course that forces extremely accurate throws and perfect lies. Terrain changes and TONS OF TREES makes course a lot of fun.
Cons: Not quite sure how to leave after the 18th hole. Some tee pads can be muddy.
Other Thoughts: Don't play this course if you don't like the sound of a disc hitting a tree.

0 of 4 people found this review helpful.

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