2 Helpful / 0 Not
Groundhog Day, but more dated…
Pros: Obviously an older, established course, Sahm has some distance (260 to 376 feet) to challenge Recreational to Intermediate arms to see where they can get their deuces. There is an informative (if weathered) course sign (not map) near the first tee(s), which are large and level, flush to the ground, concrete, providing good footing for your tee shots. You do play in a logical loop to the left, out & back, and then clockwise along the wood line and roadway back to the start, so it's easily accessible if you want to play the second set of tees for a full 18 (since there was no one out there the day I played, I threw concurrent sets from both sets of tees).
There are some trees here and there to make you consider line shaping, and at least two holes (5/14 and 8/17) that have blind basket positions. The most interesting hole is 8/17, which is best played as a big, sweeping, right to left shot around the pines (because the left side of the pines retains so much water after a rain, it becomes essentially a pond).
Cons: The baskets are ancient, rusty, shallow, and beat up. The tee signage is obliterated (you can just make out stenciled distances on some of the long tee pads, but the posts and signs are derelict). The course is mostly wide open and plays in level fields which hold moisture and get muddy enough after hard rains that they can't keep up with the mowing.
Most of the holes, for average arms, and especially for beginners, are just long enough that you'll be playing for three after three after three, while being constantly reminded of the fact that you might be playing with somebody who can simply throw 330' rhbh hyzers all day long and deuce you to death.
The holes that play beside the road do play a little close on that side and will definitely be more of a gut check for lefties and rhfh'ers, while a lot of the fairways parallel so tightly that the guys to whom this course appeals will likely be sharing a lot of airspace.
Other Thoughts: [I just looked at the pictures on here (taken in 2009), and have to point out that more than half of the trees you see in them are gone today. The course is pretty much open fields as it stands now!]
The regional habit of calling nine hole courses "18" just because there are two teepads is a bit of a pet peeve for me. There isn't enough variety here to justify calling it 18. They just play 15 to 60 feet longer, and there isn't enough in the way of foliage to really make them feel like different shots.
I kept looking over into the woods, thinking that there must have been an old park board member who originally approved the course under duress, but was sure as heck not gonna let those durned Frisbee throwing hippies hang out in his woods! Finally, there are rumors of a redesign, and there is evidence in the woods that clearings have been started, and trees and shrubs are marked. Kind of looking forward to this old horse being 'retired' to make way for the new.
Reviewer Background as of this writing: played 264 courses and written 246 reviews, with skills hovering around a 900 rating, I started playing at 50 and am now 55. I don't throw far (300 footers feel like success), but am addicted to DG, and have played with folks ranging from age 7 to 87, so I try to write reviews helpful to all.
2 of 2 people found this review helpful.
Designer Response by: MacDaddy
Sad, but true, this course is a shadow of its' former self... But! It is on the verge of being reborn! There are 10 new holes cleared in the woods and the course is getting a 9-hole expansion and a complete redesign and makeover. It will be a FULL 18-hole course with 19 baskets (a practice basket) and two 5' x 12' concrete tee pads per hole. There will also be significant planting of trees in some areas to help regenerate holes where trees were lost (and other holes too, aka the road holes). All new tee signs and a new course sign/map too. At this point we are pretty much just waiting for some dry weather as Sahm is infamously, a soggy place. So as they say.. stay tuned!
2 Helpful / 0 Not
My main practice course
Pros: Approachable for beginners while still decent challenges for intermediate players
Great course for families/kids - easy to push a stroller
Not much undergrowth in the woods, easy to recover a disc that faded too far left on Hole 5 or 6
Great "after work" course - can fit 18 holes in an hour without rushing
Cons: Keep an eye out if you're on Hole 6 fairway while someone is teeing off Hole 7. Very possible to get hit.
No elevation change
Picnickers using the shelter near Hole 2 tend to use the course for their activities
Lots of mole or groundhog tunnels, watch out to avoid a sprained ankle
Two tee pads per hole but shots are similar regardless
Other Thoughts: Course renovations planned for 2016 (according to Griffin Disc Golf vendor we talked to) - new tee pads, signs, and an expansion to 18! Excited since this is my main practice course near my house!
Hole 6 and 8 are the longest, most challenging holes in my opinion. I like to throw a few practice drives on 3 and 4 since they're wide open.
2 of 2 people found this review helpful.
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: This would be a good course for a beginner to play. There are a few holes with decent distance but nothing that is excessively long (everything under 400'.)
Plenty of shots that give a person an ace run (and I actually got one, only my 2nd ever, on hole 9.)
This course is pretty easy to navigate, with only a couple of holes where the basket isn't visible from the tee.
The course is easy to find and is in a nice, safe setting.
Cons: The baskets are in kind of rough shape. They're old and rusty. The chains do OK but the older style is shallow and it's easy to have a disc go in and spin back out of the basket.
There has been damage done to the course, as there are almost no signs available. While the baskets all have the numbers listed atop them, if the teepads weren't in close proximity to the previous baskets you'd have no way of knowing where you were going.
Very little to no elevation change and most holes are fairly wide open. Holes 5/14-8/17 are the most challenging. Five is a blind shot that turns around the woods (the only real time the woods come into play, although you do have them to the left on the next hole,) and six and seven may require you to keep it low on approaches.
Other Thoughts: This would be a good place for a person to learn the game, as there are few obstacles, limited places to lose discs, and no overly long holes to discourage a person who hasn't gained distance yet, but given the opportunities nearby I don't think anyone would make this a regular stop. Nearby is The Hill in Carmel (which is only slightly more difficult but far more picturesque with brand new baskets,) and Hazel Landing, which I think will soon be considered one of the best in the Indianapolis area if not all of Indiana.
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
5 Helpful / 0 Not
Needs some work
Pros: 9 grippy baskets - starting to rust. Could be replaced. Hole #s are listed on the basket.
2 concrete tees per hole. Alternate tees are listed as holes 10-18. Hole number spray painted on tees.
Variety - course is not completely flat. 1, 2, and 9 have slight uphill shots. Hole 3 has a slight downhill shot. Most holes around 250-350 feet. Hole 6/15 is the longest hole. One hole (including alternate tee) has a blind shot.
Not too challenging but can be more difficult than it looks.
Beginner friendly. I learned how to play using this course. Enough trees to be challenging.
Bench after hole 5 / 14 that is in the shade. A few trash cans.
Quick play. Great for practice. Easy to get to.
Easy to navigate. If tied with another player after 9 or 18 holes, you can play holes 1-3 for a quick tie breaker loop and would end next to parking lot.
Room to expand.
Cons: Several trees have been removed due to the emerald ashbore bug. Most significant on hole 4. No longer the difficult "thread the needle" hole that it used to be.
Signs need replaced or at least updates so they can last years to come. Only a few still standing and readable.
Alternate tees (holes 10-18) do not bring much change to the original holes. Hole 16 and 18 are much longer. Others are within 25 feet of the original tee pad.
Holes 7-9 (16-18) run along the road. I've hit a few cars in my day. Obvious danger factor of getting hit or hitting a car.
Easy to throw into a different fairway on holes 8 (17) and 5 (14). Fairways border each other.
Course can become very muddy along holes 3-5, 8 & 9 after rain. A small temporary water hazard can remain after a heavy rain on hole 7.
Course could use a few new trees to add to challenge factor.
Other Thoughts: Before the trees were removed I would rate this course a 3. If the signs were replaced, baskets were replaced, and a few more trees were planted (to replace the old ones, this course could be at least a 3 out of 5.
There is enough room to expand this course to a full 18 holes but the holes would be mostly flat with similar mature trees. There could be some holes in the woods but the park doesn't want any trees cut down to make fairways.
There is a pavilion for family events next to hole 1 basket. At times they take over the area around hole 1 and tee for hole 2. Can be unplayable if so.
This course is aimed towards beginner/intermediate players. If this course is too difficult, try Lawrence Inlow park to the north. If it is too easy,
5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
1 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: My wife and I played this 9 hole course on a whim just to burn time. It provided ample entertainment for a quick 30 minute round. The course weaves through some very mature trees which made it at least interesting. Signage was decent and we found the course quite easy to navigate. Concrete tees were in good shape.
Cons: The baskets are quite old and corroded. This is not a terribly challenging course once you've played it a few times so a beginner could quickly outgrow it.
Several trees need cut down in the course. It's only a matter of time before several fall.
Other Thoughts: I wouldn't go out of my way to play it again, but if I'm in the area and have time to kill, I'd definitely come back.
1 of 2 people found this review helpful.
3 Helpful / 0 Not
Nice Little Course
Pros: - No risk of losing discs
- Can play full 18 in under 1 hour
- great mid-range workout
- fairly technical, must hit gap to score well
Cons: - horrible drainage, first few days after a rain are muddy and have "lakes" in play on some holes.
-old baskets, must hit perfect putt to stay in, while great for practice, is frustrating while playing the round.
- hole 7/16, 9/18 require a RHBH slight anny, or a RHFH toss. Running right next to the road is concerning/frustrating. When it's busy there are constant cars, which REALLY disrupts my tosses.
Other Thoughts: It's an average course, in a nice area. I love that I can take just my putter, mid-range and a couple fairway drivers and get some good work in. Looks like it should be an easy course, but the trees are fairly well placed and do require a bit of accuracy to the hole. There are normally multiple paths to the basket, which does make it a bit easier. The baskets are old, so my putting confidence is less here than other course, which makes it a great practice course.
- No chance of losing a disc, which is a nice comfort compared to some other courses around.
- With the second set of tees (forming the 18 holes), 5 basically just add some length to the same line (most cause a different disc to be needed, which changes the toss for me). 2 are further on the same line, but much tougher to hit the gap, and 2 completely change the line I throw (hyzer to anny and straight to hyzer)
This is not a destination course, or even a drive out of your way. But if you happen to be at the mall, and want to get away, or you need a sub-1 hour chance to throw at some baskets, this is the perfect course.
3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
4 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Of the 9 hole courses with dual tee pads in this area, I found Sahm to be more challenging than the others (Morse Beach & Biddle Park). It has more length and requires more skilled shots to get your birdies. The course plays through numerous large, mature trees. There's a little undergrowth an errant should could encounter on a few holes, but I didn't find it to be very thick. With holes ranging in length from about 260 - 370, there's a good variety of hole lengths here.
Cons: I was a bit concerned about safety at this course. While holes 1/10, 7/16, 8/17 & 9/18 aren't extremely close to the road, they're still close enough a bad drive could easily end up there.
Like the other 9 hole courses in this area, the second pad rarely changes the shot and there isn't a lot of shot diversity.
Some of the tee signs weren't in very good condition, they only list distance and don't have a hole diagram. Thankfully it's easy to figure out what basket you're shooting at so this wasn't a problem.
The baskets look old and rusted but catch just fine and that's the important part.
The course was nice and dry when I was here since we haven't had much rain recently. I saw no problems with standing water or a muddy course on my visit.
Other Thoughts: Overall this course has a bit for everyone. There's little rough so newer players shouldn't have a problem losing discs, but it's long enough to not be a birdie fest for more advanced players. While this is certainly no destination course, it's close proximity to the highway would make it a nice stop to stretch your legs while passing by.
I want to rate this course a 2.5 because I really did enjoy it, but the lack of shot selection and safety concerns make me keep it to a 2.0.
4 of 5 people found this review helpful.
2 Helpful / 0 Not
Not Really 18 Holes...
Pros: -Decent amount of trees to provide obstacles
-Two different teepads per hole to make 18 (most of the teepads make the holes a little different rather than just adding distance)
-Pretty easy to navigate
-The few times I've played there it has never seemed very crowded
Cons: -I find it a little decieving to label this course as a 18 hole course, while each hole does have two different teepads, I don't feel like each teepad makes each hole different enough to call this an 18 hole course, because there are not 18 distinct holes here at this course
-The baskets are old and rusted and look like they could use replacing sometime soon
-The tee signs are absolutely aweful. They are all either really faded away or have holes in them, and they give you no usefule information about the holes. Some of the teepads don't even have tee signs with them.
-There are definitely some muddy and wet spots on this course so don't wear your best shoes.
-Holes 7,8,9 play right along side a pretty busy road that could lead to some dangerous situations if a bad shot is made.
Other Thoughts: Even though this isn't the greatest course I have ever played it is still a fun place to stop for a quick round. This course is in need a quite a lot of maintenance, and said maintenance would really help to improve this course. If you are in the area and looking for a quick round this is a decent place to stop, but unlike the page says don't really expect a full 18 hole course rather nine holes with two teepads per hole.
2 of 2 people found this review helpful.
Could use some maintenance.
Pros: Good for a quick game.
Lots of trees, which provide shade and a variety of opportunities to work on different shots.
Cons: The course is getting old, and it shows. The signage is deteriorating/missing, and the numbers on the baskets are wearing off.
Absolutely terrible drainage. Any solid rain in the area creates a lasting puddle on 8/17, and the course stays muddy for a long time.
Not much variety. No elevation changes or water hazards (the puddle almost counts).
Other Thoughts: For the area the park is in, you'd expect better upkeep. The ball golf course right next to it seems to be in decent shape. I'm not far away, so I still drop by for a quick round every now and then, when I want some change from my regular courses, but if you're not from central Indy, and you're looking for a course in the area, drive the extra 5-6 miles to Dr. James A. Dillon park.
4 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: This is a 9 hole course with 18 large, concrete tee pads in a well-maintained park setting. The course features many mature trees and little underbrush at all. There is ample parking extremely close to Hole #1. From there, the course is easy to navigate and has good flow with very little backtracking.
The course features 9 older baskets but has 18 tee pads allowing you to play 18 "holes". For the most part, these alternate tees are not substantially different from their counterparts but do provide slightly different lines, looks and/or distances.
This is a good course (for the most part, though see below) for beginners, as it is relatively easy and has few chances for one to lose a disc.
The signature hole (at least in my opinion) is Hole #4 which features a very narrow fairway and many large trees. This same fairway from tee pad #13 is also the only anhyzer drive on the course.
Cons: The course is very boring and monotonous. It is pretty much flat, requires almost nothing but straight shots and has little risk or reward opportunities. The distances are in a fairly narrow range as well. And while I apprecaite the 9 extra tee pads, all they really do is provide more of the same.
The course is an aging one with baskets that are old, dented, and, in the case of Hole #9/18, missing parts that make it defective. The signs are also showing their age. The course lacks amenities such as a water fountain or bathroom facilities, and features only one bench in 9 holes.
While I said above that this is a decent course for newer players, it also can be bad for those types of players on a few holes. Hole #1/10 brings the parking lot very much in play, especially for an errant rhbh hyzer shot. The same is true (but even worse) on holes 7/16, 8/17, and 9/18 where the same kind of typical-new-player-shot ends with a disc on or over a busy road. Again, this same shot will end with a disc in the woods on holes 5/14 and 6/15 where there IS quite a bit of undergrowth.
Additionally, there is some degree of fairway interference, especially with holes 5/14 and 8/17.
Having played this course many times in late winter and early spring, I can also say that it gets and stays pretty muddy, including a seasonal "pond" on Hole #8/17.
Other Thoughts: There is nothing particularly special or disconcerting about this course. It is fairly vanilla. It seems, however, to receive a lot of play as there always seems to be someone there.
I don't know the history behind the course and what land they were allowed to use, but I would have loved to have seen some holes carved out of the adjoining woods. Even three holes there would make the course far more interesting and could yield a 12/24 hole course.
Bottom line: this is a course I neither love nor hate.
4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
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