Helsinki's Prime Course
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Pros: Challenging and beautiful holes with wide variation in design and topography.
Very spacious, generally flows well, and requires a nice balance of power and accuracy.
Located in a mostly quiet and peaceful area.
Excellent warm-up area with 4 nicely placed, high quality practice baskets and a drive catching net.
Well maintained and built, including some artificial obstacles and a good triple mando.
Cons: Not particularly well connected to the exceptional public transportation network.
No facilities or services available near by, bring all you need with you. This includes water, no water supply on site!
Extremely busy in the afternoon and evening when the weather is decent. Expect a 3 hour + round sometimes.
They change some basket placements for the winter season layout which spoils the design quality. Unfortunately, several of the best holes are butchered by the adjustment.
Holes 1 and 5 can get terribly slippery when icy or muddy as they're on a fairly steep sloping hillside.
Other Thoughts: I don't understand the Mao Zedong references in the early section of the course. Maybe it's a joke or something but it's not very clear what is the meaning, message, or point to it. Not a big deal or anything but the guy was personally responsible for the worst famine in known human history, amongst other crimes against humanity.
If they didn't change the layout for the winter I would give it a 4.5, the normal layout is brilliant!
1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
5 Helpful / 0 Not
Fun In Finland!
Pros: This course is northwest of downtown Helsinki, a short lightrail ride on the A commuter train. It is a full 18 hole, which seems unusual close into town. The Tees are oversized wooden platforms on most holes with outdoor carpet. This gives a nice runup area allowing a variety of angles, something I appreciate as a RHFH driver. I often take a unusual angle on the pad and that can be problematic on many courses.
The pins are a 2 chain model I've never seen, chains are tighter on most so catch well. Bright orange chastity belts make them easy to spot. There is a cool disc with an arrow on each one showing the direction to the next hole.
Part of the difficulty of the course is the liberal use of OB, either on sides of fairway or as bunkers, causing tough choices an a few holes. I held back or messed up on a few holes due to fear of OB.
There is a course map and each hole has a good current map at the tee
Cons: There are a lack of bathrooms and water at the site. It was also a little difficult to find w/o gps even though we had looked at maps before going out.
The driving area is very narrow and between two holes, tough to use on day like today with wind and busy course.
Other Thoughts: This course was a good way to start our adventure in Northern Europe. It is a well made course.
South and east of the train stop is FrisbeePoint, a well stocked store run by very helpful people.
There are a variety of signs with Chairman Mao, wish I read Finnish so I knew what that was about.
It's also good to beat Valkerie Kid to a course!
5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
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Helsinki's mother course!
Pros: Tali is a disc golf only park just outside of Helsinki. Getting there without your own wheels is very easy; just take the 'A' commuter train out of Helsinki central to Mäkkylä and you'll be within spitting distance of the course. Also, right by the Mäkkylä station is Frisbeepoint Oy, a great shop to stock up on plastic. They have Finnish prices and weird hours (look them up) but they also carry just about any product on the market in a variety of weights, plastics and colors. Support local disc shops!
The park has great baskets and they're easy to spot; the top band is painted a dark orange. There are several practice baskets at the start of the course. The tee signs are easy to spot and show distance, hole number, par info and a good map of the fairway. The course is well designed and some holes are particularly creative. The path of the course describes two loops; the first 12 holes take you in a loop back to the parking lot and then the last six loop around as well. The grass is well maintained here and the local club seems to keep the facility in great condition. There are benches at every tee.
This course is challenging. Bring your best game and your full arsenal. This course features epic distance (longest hole is 216m!) a keyhole mando, lots of OB, an island hole, drop-offs, tons of trees, tight fairways, and just about anything else you could think of to make your round tough. The shots are varied, and there are a couple of ace runs as well. The course also hosts a couple of tournaments it seems and also hosts a leg of the European pro tour.
There are also a few elements here that set the course well above average. One blind hole has a little bike horn to honk by the basket when you've finished the hole so the group behind you knows its safe to throw. Pure genius! Also, the OB lines are marked by stakes made from small diameter pvc pipe pieces stuck in the ground. I've only seen this on Finnish courses but I think it's an aspect that other courses would be smart to adopt as well.
I found the Finns in general to be very friendly wonderful people and their disc golfers are no exception. Most of them speak decent if not excellent English and I played in with a few players here; one of whom I met up with later in the week and another guy gave me a lift back to my hostel. Don't be afraid of the language barrier, they will probably love to talk to you. Also, you can do late twilight rounds here in the summer as the sun won't set until about 11pm around the solstice. It's awesome.
Cons: I'm not crazy about tees here. They're great on the longer holes but some of the shorter ones use pretty short tees. Some are concrete and some are carpet colored plywood. They could be better.
You do have to watch out for stinging nettles (or as the Finns call them nökkönen). They are very present on this course, both in the rough and on the fairway. Also the mosquitoes here are huge and will eat you alive. Bring bug spray.
While it's great that disc golf is one of the fastest growing rec sports in Finland, it also means that this course gets very crowded. You will also find a lot of unexperienced players who are more into drinking beer than playing so the course can get a bit littered. You may also spend some time waiting to tee off, thank god for those benches right?
The last thing that could be improved on this course is the layout. Some fairways share an OB line, so an errant shot can easily fall on a neighboring fairway. I also think it's nuts to have the 216m hole be the first shot. It is kind of a good thing to get some space between groups at the start of the course. but it's also a little crazy to start a course with such a long hole.
Other Thoughts: Save your money and take a disc golf vacation to Finland. Playing here is a true joy with such a great course, beautiful setting, long summer days, and friendly locals. Pack some bug spray, watch out for the nökkönen, and have a great round. It's an excellent course all around!
8 of 8 people found this review helpful.
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Great course in Espoo/Helsinki
Pros: Well marked, challenging and convenient location. The course, for the most part, is reserved for the sport, so not a lot of outside interference. There is also a good practice area. The course is mostly wooded with long fairways, and you will need to switch discs and throw types, so it is an overall good course to work on your game play. The boundaries and DMZ zones are fun as well, and several holes have more than one basket.
Cons: It can get quite crowded. The foliage can also make finding a disc really difficult. Caution should be used on holes 5 and 7, so make sure you have an accurate throw or at least pay attention to where the disc lands. If the weather is bad then I do recommend not playing this course.
Other Thoughts: I play this course on a regular basis, and so far it is my favorite in Helsinki even though I consider the course to be in Espoo. The course does not have too much variety to it, but it is solid game play. Basically, if you can throw accurate and putt then the course can be straightforward. The scenery can be good, but bad weather takes away from the course big time, in my opinion. Overall, Tali is a solid 18 holes and well marked.
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