6 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Sugaw Creek is decent course in NE Charlotte. By Charlotte standards, it's very run-of-the-mill, but in most other places, it would get more acclaim. I am giving Sugaw a 2.5 rating, which is below its 3.2 average. However, I tend to be a slightly tougher grader than the DGCR community as a whole. My average rating is 2.5. And I'm giving Sugaw Creek, and average course, a 2.5.
+ Lots of variety and challenging hole layouts to test intermediate and advanced players alike.
+ Very nice mix of open holes to really bomb and tight, wooded holes for accurate, creative lines.
+ There is good variety of hole designs: a couple of slight downhill holes, some wooded and some open.
+ Several nice greens with baskets situated on ridges or hills to increase the difficulty.
+ The problems I have with this course are mostly about safety and location, not the technical layout. This is a decently long, challenging course.
+ Much to my surprise, since the area and the upkeep of the course itself isn't good, the community center at the park was very nice. Good restrooms. Other amenities there, like indoor basketball, rooms for classes, etc.
- For me, far and away the biggest problem with the course is its proximity to a high-traffic road. Granted, it takes a pretty bad shot to land in the road, but I played this course with beginners and one of them DID land it in the road! It was a true miracle that it happened to miss a windshield. (It landed in the middle turning lane, thank God.) Several holes are just way too close to that road. Not only that, but they are close to perpendicular to the road, so an errant drive -- a grip-lock or unplanned turned over disc -- really could hit a car (as I very nearly saw for myself).
- In addition to the safety concerns, for about a third of the course, you're close enough to the road to hear the constant roar of traffic (and people shouting their greetings to you as they pass by). There are some peaceful sections of the course, but a big chunk of it is not fun at all.
- Getting back to safety and peacefulness, or lack thereof, this is a pretty bad part of town...and it shows on the course. There were 5 different homeless people on the course when we played. None of them caused any problems (in fact, we had a fun conversation with a couple of them about disc golf), but still, not what you want in a course. Also, the upkeep wasn't great. There was a good bit of trash and debris. Aesthetically, the park is below average.
- We played this course after some rain and the drainage was poor. I'm not sure how it is on a more typical day, but my experience, after some rain, was pretty sloppy. Lots of mud and some standing water.
- The baskets were old and pretty cheap.
- Some of the tees left a lot to be desired. Walking paths are used as tees on a few holes; there was mud and water on many of them.
- There were no "Next Tee" signs or maps, that we could see. For most of the course, it's not a problem, but there were a couple of places with long walks in between holes and we had to guess (wrongly, as it turned out) where to look for the next tee.
Other Thoughts: Overall, this is a decent course to try out if you live in Charlotte. For out-of-towners, it's not going to make your top 5 courses to play here. However, because of it's central location, it's a passable option if you're visiting the Queen City. Of the Charlotte courses I've played so far, I'd rank them as follows:
1. Nevin (not far away, N CLT) - 4.5
2. RL Smith (W CLT) - 4.0
3. Kilborne (very close by in NE CLT) - 3.5
4. Eager Beaver (southern tip of Meck) - 3.0
5. Bailey Road (N Meck) - 3.0
6. Renske (not too far, S CLT) - 2.5
7. Sugaw Creek - 2.5
8. Pinewood Elem. (kids' course) - 0.5
6 of 6 people found this review helpful.
Let it Fly!
1 Helpful / 2 Not
Pros: This is set in a recreational outdoor park setting. Most of the holes are open and the majority are 300 feet or more. there isn't much elevation change at all. I threw two discs on each hole and finished in just over 1 hour. The signage to the next tee is up for most holes. The tee pads are rough concrete. The hole layouts are easy to read.
Cons: The tee pads aren't smooth. A few of the holes are along a busy street. The scenery at this time of year, early March, isn't anything to speak of. The baskets are some times not easy to see, being grey.
Other Thoughts: I'm glad that I played this course at least once. I may go back with a friend. It does test your distance quite a bit and throwing backhand or forehand is an option on many holes.
1 of 3 people found this review helpful.
For the Kombucha Mushroom People
9 Helpful / 1 Not
Pros: Just a plain fun course to play. It's a breeze to navigate due to being so well established, plus signage, and is extremely well balanced. This is the kind of course that is going to appeal to probably the widest variety of disc golfers. Beginners will find it a tad difficult and experts will find it a tad easy but all should have a good time ambling through the park.
You've got wooded holes, some open holes and some typical city park style holes galore. The wooded holes are a little technical but fair (even hole 3) and the open holes still require a modicum of line-shaping at least rather than mindless bombing. The amount of OB and sprinkling of mandos and raised or guarded baskets helps spice up the design enough to keep it from being bland.
Tees and signs are good, although the tees are getting some age on them. Not a terribly long course but there are enough open holes worth keeping a distance driver or two in the bag and enough fairway variety and obstacles/rough to warrant carrying a good arsenal of discs. You could carry just a putter, midrange, and driver and tear the course up but occasionally you'll want more distance or need to pull something off trickier.
Despite being Memorial Day, I didn't notice much of a crowd and the course didn't take long to play, especially since it starts and ends right away near the entrance of the park.
Actually a surprisingly pretty park. Lots of lovely shade trees like the awesome magnolia on hole 7's tee and nicely mowed grass on the open holes. Ivy and running cedar run amok off the fairway, giving a lush and verdant look.
Cons: Well, it's right across from Hidden Valley community. If you're familiar with the History Channel's program on gangs called Gangland, you may have seen the episode that featured the Hidden Valley Kings, a delightful group of gentlemen that gained enough notoriety a few years ago to get the police to take notice and start cracking down on them. I didn't feel too worried about my safety but I wasn't alone either and the police appear to frequent the parking lot.
Trash wasn't as bad as I thought it would be but it's there and often of the variety you'd associate with inner-city degenerates. Random piles of discarded clothes. Middle Eastern opera music blasting from across the road on hole 10? Why not?
Lots of holes run quite close together and there are plenty of places to cross sidewalks. Extremely easy to go OB on hole 1 and hole 8 and end up in the park's road entrance b/c the baskets are right in front of the road. Hole 1's tee co-opts a sidewalk. Occasionally you can see multiple baskets and get a little confused. Not much of a problem finding your discs in the rough here but there are some spots fairly thick with undergrowth.
I like the raised basket on hole 6. I don't care for the one on hole 14 inside the tree. Seems a little gimmicky. Why? I dunno. Also little to no elevation or water in play, although I think no water is probably a good thing considering what would likely be in it at this park.
Other Thoughts: It took me too long to play here and cross it off my list, thanks in large part to Charlotte adding one epic course after another (way to go, you jerks) and the course's seedy reputation. I loved this course. It's a really fun round in a surprisingly nice city park, albeit in a bad neighborhood. It feels like a course that's aging like fine wine and I got a lot of the same good times and vibes from playing Hornets Nest here. It's like a cheap fix that keeps the Nest monkey off my back until I can get some of the good stuff again, the primo stuff. Let the good times roll, baby.
9 of 10 people found this review helpful.
9 Helpful / 0 Not
Fun. Fair. Challenging
Pros: The best way I can describe this course is "smooth" if that makes sense? The course flows well, and plays well.
The course is well worn, and has clearly been around for a while. I loved the well worn and walked fairways and trails, making the popular, or preferred routes clear.
There is a great variety of holes throughout the course. Holes in light woods, holes in tight woods, long(ish) open field shots, holes that start in woods and end in the open, then holes that start in the open and end in the woods. Even an elevated basket or two. One is on a pole for elevation, but not ridiculous, the other is perched in a grouping of trees. Both changing how the hole would play with a normal in the ground placement. I like it.
Another pro, but a minor one, was the unique tee shot on the front 9. I believe #6 or #7. The tee pad is under the shade of a large tree with magnificent long, low hanging branches. A nice break from the open field heat of the prior hole. This tee requires a low release to clear a low hanging branch only a few feet from the end of the tee pad. Cool stuff!
The course is very fair. Some courses can be overbearing on times, and the risk/reward ratio highly skewed. However this course, I felt, was a fine balance of risk and reward. Nothing terribly challenging, or extra long, but enough challenge and tight fairways to require adequate control for a decent score.
Fun and challenging use of Mando's on a few holes. I feel like Mando's are often left out of course design, so to see them on more than one hole was great. They're not un-fair, and really enhance what would normally be a boring, lackluster hole. Great job from the design team using the land available.
The course (mostly) flowed well from one basket to the next tee, with semi adequate signage. With a bit of common sense, I pretty easily found my way through the course.
Cons: Although not a big con, it's still a con...the course is very compact in that there are a lot of close fairways, and baskets close to other tees or baskets/fairways. The designer did a great job and made the most of it, but there are 18 holes in a relatively small area it feels. I can see this being a potential hazard when the course is crowded, but wasn't much of a concern otherwise.
Keeping along the lines of tight spaces, a handful of the holes play along a pretty busy road. This really can add to the noise level, which detracts from some of the serenity and relaxation of playing golf.
Aside from the major road along the side of some holes, a few of the other holes play next to or end up right near the park road. This wasn't much of an issue as the road isn't terribly busy, but felt like "forced" OB if that makes sense?
Other Thoughts: Great course! I thoroughly enjoyed playing the course, and didn't leave feeling abused like some other tougher courses can do to you. You can play this course with no real idea on course layout and using the clearly worn/cleared fairways and nice tee signs not have much of a deficit. Compared to some courses, where it really pays to have a knowledge of the holes' layout to improve your score.
For that reason, I describe the course as a "Fair" playing course. Doesn't cheat you out of strokes for not knowing the in's and out's of each hole.
Although the tight quarters of some holes, and the noisy road take away from the potential greatness, I still highly recommend and enjoy Sugaw Creek.
It's long enough to not feel like a beginner's/learner's course, but not too long to leave you beat down, sore armed and exhausted. A great course if you're planning on playing others the same day!
Fun fun fun
9 of 9 people found this review helpful.
5 Helpful / 1 Not
A tail of two 9s
Pros: This course is a great mix of a tighter and placement shot filled front 9 then a much more open back 9 with some grip it and rip it opportunities. All of the shorter holes have a turn or trees to make it around so none of the holes feel overly basic. All of the holes have good tee signs and big, roomy tee boxes. Neither of the mandos on 9 or 17 are overly hard to make which is a plus.
On the front 9 the course can sneak up and bite you in a hurry with the tighter fairways and the raised basket on 6. Get off the line and you may not always be to pitch out of the woods and save par. The road behind 8 makes the tee shot a extra challenge with the traffic noise.
The back 9 opens up and holes 10,11, and 15 offer a great chance to stretch your arm out and the 9 as a whole is a nice change from the front side. The basket in the tree on 14 is an awesome idea and makes you really think about your putt on that hole.
None of the foliage is so thick that you can't go hunting for a missed drive and only hole 5 has much undergrowth to lose a disk in. All of the grass is cut short and your disks can get a good skip for some extra distance.
Cons: While there are no crossing fairways there are threw out the course holes that come close to each other so always be aware of who is around you. Holes 1,2,3, and 8 have walking paths threw them so be watching for walkers at the park. The road into the park comes into play on 8 and 18 if you overshot the basket. High school age kids tend to walk threw the back 9 to get into the park vs walking around.
Only about half of the holes have next tee sighs and with the back 9 having so many holes in sight of each other you can get crossed around if you don't get a map from the office at the park.
Other Thoughts: Because this course does't demand to much of your arm and it being all par 3s it's great as a second round after Killborne or Eastway or as a first round then you still have enough in the tank to play another round later in the day. Or as a stand alone course it's a really fun round and a great place to work on a good mix of shots.
In the 3 course set of Sugaw Creek, Eastway, and Killborne I would rank this course #2. Behind Killborne but in front of Eastway.
5 of 6 people found this review helpful.
5 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: This course is very fun. It offers a great layout that is very easy to follow. It was my first time playing this course, I had heard many great things about it from friends so I had to go check it out. There is a practice basket which is nice. Hole 1 starts right at the parking lot which is also nice. The fairways offer difficult shots but are so difficult that you just ping pong between trees. There are multiple lines to take on each hole to get to the basket which is very fun.
One basket is located in a tree which is a very cool aspect.
Navigating the course is also very easy. Tees for the next hole are very close to the basket of the previous hole.
If you do happen to kick off a tree and off the fairway, getting to your disc is very easy, with much of the brush taken out and many paths to travel along to get to it.
Baskets catch pretty well.
Tees are a good size.
There are bathrooms located in the building at the center of the park which is always a good thing.
The course is fairly clean..for the most part
FUN COURSE, I had a blast playing this course
Cons: This is a great course. But it is not in the best part of town. There were some very sketchy people walking around the course. I didn't have any problems with them but just a be cautious. I said the course is clean for the most part, but it does still have its share of trash throughout the park. (beer cans, bottles, old metal scrap)
Other Thoughts: This is a great course for players of any skill level. It offers open and tight shots. Forcing you to make many different shots.
I would say that if you are a right handed player you will score better if you have a decent flick. I do not, but still had a decent score throwing RHBH.
Like I said this course is very fun and would recommend it to anyone, I will certainly be back to play more rounds here.
5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
9 Helpful / 0 Not
Sugaw Creek: The Sweetness of Charlotte DG
Pros: Sugaw Creek is an excellent course, and is very close to many other popular Charlotte courses. (Reedy Creek, Kilborne, and Eastway.) Beware, this course can be deceivingly tougher than it appears, but still isn't too demanding- making it a great for both beginners and intermediate players. This set up allows you to experience a lot of Disc Golf on a nice Saturday. Sugaw has a variety of shots and lengths, and even environment (with about a 50/50 split on open and wooded holes). However, there is little-to-no elevation change. The way the course designers have made use of a couple elevated pins, and integrated Hole 14's pin into a tree feel very fresh and are creative. The added mulch on Hole 6's pin makes retrieving your putter easier, while also adding a slight challenge to your approach.
The OB flower beds on Hole 9 and the large amount of Kudzu has been cleared away, making it harder to lose your disc. None of the OBs or Mandos are too restricting, and their combination with a course filled with both technical fairways and grip-and-rip fairways manage to give the course its distinct feel over the other courses nearby. Another definite plus is the large amount of Police presence thanks to training programs that occur in the park regularly, making the Parking lot much safer than the rest of the neighborhood.
Cons: Sugaw Creek isn't in the safest of neighborhoods. Even with the police presence mentioned above, it is advised to not leave valuables lying out in your car. And even though a lot of the brush around the course has been cleared to make it hard to lose your disc on most of the course. However turning your RHBH bomb over more than you want on Hole 10 or over shooting the green on Hole 11 (if you can manage that much distance) can be devastating. If you enter the woods across the road (especially on Hole 10) there is a chance you may never see that disc again.
Other Thoughts: The $5 Am League that is held on Thursdays at 5:30pm is a great way for newer Disc Golfers to get into the competitive scene. Using a nice handicap scoring method, the host has managed to create a relaxed, yet competitive atmososphere that leads to large amounts of fun. Though I haven't played in them for a few years despite living in Greensboro for 3 years, it still seems to be wildly popular. A similar Am League was started at Reedy on Sundays at 10:30am due to the popularity of the Sugaw Am League.
Favorite Holes: 7, 9, 11, 14, 15
9 of 9 people found this review helpful.
5 Helpful / 0 Not
In the middle of the pack for Charlotte courses!
Pros: Course caters to beginner / intermediate players.
Course is easy to navigate.
Good mix of open and wooded holes that require an array of shots to score well.
Benches and trashcans at most holes.
Course has other amenities like tennis courts, baseball fields, playgrounds, basketball courts, etc.
Nice tee signs with layout of hole.
A couple of raised baskets (#6 & #14) with #14 being placed in the middle of a tree adding some variety.
Park is smaller in terms of acreage, however makes good use of the land that is there.
Haven't witnessed the course being over crowded like Reedy can be at times.
The mandos on this course are reasonable.
Police will patrol the area often.
Cons: Park is not in a great area of Charlotte.
Slim to none elevation change.
Course has trash lying around.
Only one tee pad and pin per hole.
Walking paths and entrance road come into play on several holes. Some holes also play along a major road in Charlotte with consistent traffic.
No tee on hole 1, but you are able to use the sidewalk so not a huge con for me.
Other Thoughts: Course is more catered to RHFH and/or LHBH players.
The course brings a challenge, however not quite the challenge like you will get at Reeny or Hornet's Nest. I'm by no means am the best disc golfer out there, so I will find this course a challenge to break par. Having said that, I believe that luck is needed more than at most Charlotte courses.
Front 9 consists of more wooded holes for technical shots while the back 9 is more open for a "grip and rip" feel.
Course is also nearby other parks with disc golf courses. Eastway and Kilborne.
Make certain that you leave no valuables out in plain view in your vehicle.
5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
9 Helpful / 0 Not
Pros: Sugaw Creek is home to a fun and well implemented course. Layout is compact and easy to follow. The terrain alternates between fairly open to moderately wooded with a couple of mandos, or a peculiar basket location here and there for fun. Minimal elevation change, and water not much of a concern. Not over powering in terms of distance (my only birdie was on the second longest hole, at 358'). Good mix of left/right holes, used the backhand and sidearm. Most holes had character, and were nicely framed.
The tees are concrete, with nice signs, and short transitions between holes that are also clearly marked. Baskets are new condition and pretty sweet. Park was deserted and pace was fast, had a lot of fun. Like other courses in the area, very nicely marked and well thought out.
Cons: A couple of filler holes sprinkled in. Mud made the ground slick, but considering it had rained that morning not too bad. I guess there could be problems outside of disc golf concerns that are associated this city park. I had no trouble on this holiday morning, but I have had an attempted break-in on my truck at Hornets Nest, so I know how it can go in a city park.
Other Thoughts: Sugaw Creek is the first new course of 2013. Based on one visit I really liked this course. Not super difficult, but really fun and somewhat scenic. I know if I could play several rounds, I could score way better here. Preferred Sugaw to nearby Eastway, valuing fun-factor and difficulty in terms of shot making instead of strength. Similar to good old Earlewood in Columbia, SC except with far less elevation change. My New Years Day new course streak is at 3 years in a row now, since the rain stopped long enough to sneak in one more round on my trip to Charlotte. A fine new tradition!
9 of 9 people found this review helpful.
Sugaw isn't sweet like sugar
7 Helpful / 4 Not
Pros: -Sugaw is a nice par 3 course in Charlotte that is a moderately challenging disc golf course. The course has some wooded holes and some open holes. It has straight holes and holes with different shaped fairways.
-The course is very easy to follow. I do remember a couple next tee signs for the walks to the next holes that are a bit confusing and there are diagrams of the hole by the tee so you will know how to play the hole
-The course has new baskets that are in good shape and they are double chained. The course was in need of new baskets and now we have 'em.
-Some designs at Sugaw are very unique and memorable (Especially on #14). Hole 14's basket is in a tree and that is what makes the hole a tricky birdie attempt. Get close if you want the birdie. Another memorable hole is #7. Your teeshot is under a magnolia tree and it requires the teeshot to be low
-The course has plenty of garbage cans and bathrooms are in the building close to the first hole. It's in front of the parking lot.
-Practice basket is next to the parking lot. It's very close to hole #1.
-Every hole has at least a small birdie opprotunity. Having said that, there is a way to birdie every hole. Some holes require Righty backhands and some require sidearms.
-Every hole is very punishing and a birdie opprotunity can turn into a 4,5 or even a 6. In exception to #18, that is a sweet finishing hole. It's a bit downhill and it goes into the woods. If you throw into the woods and land in the fairway a good bit past the opening mouth into the woods then a birdie will probably come.
-Thursday League is up here. It's pretty fun.
Cons: -Holes 2 and 8 play painfully close to a sidewalk. It's OB because I've seen people walk on it. But the holes are just too close to it. It also makes both holes painfully irritating as they are both very technical and you are bound to hit a tree and kick OB. And it's painfully close to hole 1's fairway. I just think it's ridiculous for good shots to be penalized.
-A bit of graffiti on the baskets here and there. I'm not that rednecky player that swears up a storm on the Charlotte dgc facebook page or says "So-so, I'm gonna kick your (expletive) and shot cha witha shotgun if I find you boy!" But it is disappointing that some locals will vandalize property.
-The design for #3 is pretty silly. You have to throw the most perfect hyzer and avoid a ton of trees. Good luck getting a two here.
Other Thoughts: -This course is kind of a water taste compared to most Charlotte courses. It's not as good as the others in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, I love holes 6 and 14 and there basket positions. And #16 is a sweet uphill keyhole. But aside from those few holes, it's just kinda generic. But the tee signs are great, and the course is well kept.
-If you go to the area, I'd play Eastway. It's a great 18 holer. Yes it gets rough and yes there are snakes, but they are easier to avoid than many other dangerous species. This course is fun with a group, and it's fun at singles, but it's probably not going to be your "go-to."
7 of 11 people found this review helpful.
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